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Post by afkmatrix on Jun 14, 2008 23:37:34 GMT 1
Ok well this may seem like a silly question but here goes. I am going to be painting my brass before I fix it as I am doing the deck planking by hand. Soo what I am wondering is should I bend the brass bits then paint them or should I paint them then bend them? Just worried if I have already painted them then bend them that the paint will crack or something.
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Post by eric on Jun 15, 2008 7:06:50 GMT 1
I think I would probably bend them first Afk, there may be quite some fiddling with them to get them into the correct shape in places.
One idea.....the destructions say to put on the lower brass-work first, then the next level, then the last. Personaly, I think they got that the wrong way round, you may want to reverse that order and avoid interferance from the level below with all the possabilities of damaging the rails. Just a thought.
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Post by nm on Jun 15, 2008 7:20:53 GMT 1
I'd agree with Eric - bend them first.
From your question, I guess that's what you had decided to do anyway!
NM
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Post by gordon on Jun 15, 2008 20:07:08 GMT 1
Good point eric and I wish I had thought about that before fitting the lower deck rails. Had a nighmare trying to bend the upper deck arround the lower handrails.
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Post by swanrail on Jun 15, 2008 21:28:01 GMT 1
Suggest everyone takes advantage of the German pre-view site. It is very useful to see what is going to happen in the next 20 weeks or so, from which you can decide if it is best to leave a part unfixed so that it can be finished/improved on before making permanent.!! (as an example, the part referred to above, I did not stick down (still havent) as in my case I am painting the brass bits as I go along due to having custom built decks. So I was able to bend the rails around away from the main superstructure with no problem. Likewise, in part 68, we now have to stick more brass bits on the aforementioned section, which in my case will be easier because the section can be lifted free.) p.s. but this means of course that I cannot fix on the exhaust pipe we made in issue 66 until it is glued down!!.
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Post by borryman on Jun 23, 2008 20:54:52 GMT 1
Regarding painting. They keep telling us R/C model guys, "if we have painted and varnished hull etc" We have not had any instructions yet to paint hull, only a grey primer.
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Post by borryman on Jun 23, 2008 20:59:25 GMT 1
I presume we will be painting all the brass bits etc when everything on the superstructure is finished. I wonder whether it would be better to brush paint rather than spray, as spraying might cover up too much of the brass distinquishments.
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Post by eric on Jun 23, 2008 21:54:40 GMT 1
For many years I have made ships, aircraft and tanks....two years ago I bought a Badger Airbrush and sprayed a Panther tank. and I was astonished at the difference!
Suddenly all sorts of detail was visable, detail that had been obliterated under the thick coats of brushed on paint, small welded joints and sunken bolts were perfectly coated and clearly defined, while the older hand brushed tank just looked crude and badly done.
I certainly hope to do as much spray painting to Bismarck as I can. Of course, there will be all the small details and weathering that will require the brush, but the most part shall be sprayed.
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Post by Mark on Jun 24, 2008 3:54:06 GMT 1
I'll second that - an airbrush makes a lot of difference. However, a spray can, while giving a nice smooth, brush mark free finish, can still put on paint thick enough to cover fine detail.
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Post by northman on Jul 31, 2008 23:41:49 GMT 1
Eric , I have never used an airbrush before and if the effect is as you say I will have to get me one . Now, how fine does a airbush go or would i have to mask a lot of things to get a straight line on the camoflauge on the hull?
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Post by Mark on Jul 31, 2008 23:50:46 GMT 1
You'd have to mask the superstructure to do the camo. You can't get a sharp line just using an airbrush.
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Post by northman on Aug 1, 2008 0:18:38 GMT 1
Would it be okay to hand paint the camo lines and airbrush in between them ?
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Post by markus on Aug 1, 2008 9:56:06 GMT 1
...You can't get a sharp line just using an airbrush. just like using cheap masking tape.... ;D markus
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Post by eric on Aug 1, 2008 13:06:27 GMT 1
Would it be okay to hand paint the camo lines and airbrush in between them ? I think you'd be as well to mask off and spray paint. My advice would be to get hold of and old model hull and practice on that before going anywhere near the Bismarck. Get your tecnique right (and masking tape!!) before trying the Bismarck. You really need to mask off the areas you don't want painted fully, as you could end up with a fine misting of paint over anything not covered.
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Post by jcmanu on Aug 16, 2008 18:11:25 GMT 1
before i paint the brass parts should it be etched 1st with a primer or can the humbrol/airfix paint go on directly on to the brass? also is the ship finished 1st before painting starts or do we paint superstructure as we go along , my hull is 2nd planked and filling etc started, but im just wondering about superstructure?also should we use matt, satin, or gloss finish with colours of our own choice? jcmanu
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