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Post by grantj on Mar 30, 2010 12:34:17 GMT 1
I dont have any of the parts yet but have started work on designing and building a jig to hold the tframes together and straight so I dont end up with a banana hull.
Made one when building the Bismarck and it worked a treat!
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Post by Mike B on Mar 30, 2010 19:17:13 GMT 1
I dont have any of the parts yet but have started work on designing and building a jig to hold the tframes together and straight so I dont end up with a banana hull. Made one when building the Bismarck and it worked a treat! I would hang fire on that one, Grant. If the hull construction is anything like other Victory kits, it is impossible for the hull to warp due to the combination of vertical keel, multi-level decks, stringers and frames forming a rigid hull construction. Rather wait and see what comes.
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Post by grantj on Mar 30, 2010 19:26:59 GMT 1
Thanks for that advice Mike B but my design is actually two fold. Firstly to keep the frame straight and secondly as a type of clamp to hold the hull down while working on it.
I found on planking previous hulls that sometimes two hands are not enough especially when trying to nail down planks and the hull keeps moving around!
i have been checking some of the other forum builds of this kit and it does look like one needs to accumulate a fair few issues before starting on the hull - I will have to stay happy building the other odd bits they supply like the guns and anchors!
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Post by Mark on Mar 30, 2010 21:22:49 GMT 1
I generally think Jigs are a good idea. Mine usually consists of a heavy sheet of chipboard, and half a dozen blocks of wood screwed in place, to hold the keel straight. Not exactly a lavish affair.
The hull shouldn't warp, but that's what I thought about the Bismarck, and my hull took on a slight bow after I planked it. Annoying, but its not noticeable unless you know to look for it.
Oh, not forgetting a strategically placed strip of masking tape or paper under the keel to stop it getting glued to the jig !
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Post by Mike B on Mar 31, 2010 7:13:00 GMT 1
I must admit, on second thoughts, a jig is needed, but only to keep the keel straight. I found that, because of the complex hull shape, I found it easier to plank the hull off the jig.
Mark, I suspect that the problem with the Bismarck was that it had a horizontal base plate and no vertical keel to stop vertical warping?
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Post by Mark on Mar 31, 2010 9:14:11 GMT 1
Spot on Mike. The design could have done with some forward/aft bars at main deck level to make it stiffer. My Bismarck has got a 2 or 3mm hog !
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Post by Mike B on Mar 31, 2010 20:43:17 GMT 1
I think that a vertical keel was omitted because of the R/C option? The Titanic had a vertical keel and thus no problem.
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Post by mike on Mar 31, 2010 20:52:55 GMT 1
Got issue 2 today, can't start the build until Ive got all the keel parts, should be about issue 5 I should think. Ill start a build diary on Marks new forum. PARTWORKMODELS mike
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Post by Mark on Mar 31, 2010 23:26:46 GMT 1
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Post by mike on Apr 2, 2010 21:07:23 GMT 1
Just been looking at DeAgostini Victory forum, Their doing a poll asking how many crew figure's members would like on the ship. Also it looks like their offering a copper bottom for the ship, that might be an option extra. mike
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Post by Mark on Apr 2, 2010 21:57:36 GMT 1
I saw that poll - typical that most people are saying the biggest number ! Greedy so n so's !
Where did you see the bit about the copper bottom. I didn't see that bit.
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Post by mike on Apr 2, 2010 22:16:36 GMT 1
Under General Discussion, will you paint your Victory, post 18 admin mike
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Post by Mark on Apr 2, 2010 22:48:21 GMT 1
Ah, got it now thank Mike,
I think they mean that it will be included, but it's not included in the original Artisania Latina kit.
It's the same wording that they use for the figures.
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Post by grab on Jun 10, 2011 0:12:10 GMT 1
Does anyone have a spare copy of issue 1 of deagostini HMS Victory they would like to sell?
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