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Post by kriegsloko on Jul 7, 2008 11:08:06 GMT 1
Hi there fellow modellers. Well, here in South Africa we are still quite far from deck planking and such (only up to Issue 39 currently) but to those guys doing they own deck planking with individual strips (i.e. not using Hatchette's printed decks and wanting to represent caulking, I have a suggestion. Give the edges of each plank a quick (light) rub with the blunt edge of a hobby knife, thus slightly beveling the edges. Then cut & glue them to model. This should result in a very thin gap between each two planks. Next, seal them with a few thin coats of your favourite sanding sealer, being careful not to fill the narrow grooves between planks. Now take a blob (about 10mm long) of Raw Umber artists oil paint and dissolve it in a film canister filled with turpentine or white spirit (NOT lacquer thinners or acetone - this will eat through the sanding sealer!). Using a broad soft watercolour brush, slop this coloured wash onto the deck a small section at a time, let dry for an hour and then wipe the excess wash from the deck with an old t-shirt. If required you can go over the wiped part again with a clean part of the t-shirt that has been dampened (NOT SOAKED) in turps/White spirit. This should leave a nice representation of caulking. Avoid using black paint as this will give too harsh results to be appropriate for this scale.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 12:25:56 GMT 1
Intresting Idea. Might give it a go, if I ever get to that part.
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Post by rem2007 on Jul 23, 2009 15:41:09 GMT 1
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Post by tanus on Jul 24, 2009 1:36:50 GMT 1
Have seen decking pre caulked in strips 22 inchesx 3 inches wide,and correct scale planks. Go to the micromark website,its in their catalogue.I ordered some 2 weeks ago,so should arrive any day,so will report when i receive.It is non jogged,but i believe an indian ink pen will resolve this.Will keep everyone posted.they have pictures of it on their web site Tanus
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Post by rwclancer on Sept 23, 2009 16:14:03 GMT 1
Hello. I have been looking at photos of the completed ship and notice that the deck has a lip all the way around. My one does not. Have I done somthing wrong?
Robert
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Post by coenie on Sept 23, 2009 19:48:20 GMT 1
Guys please help?
I'm not in the modeling business so long, what is meant by caulking?
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Post by mike on Sept 23, 2009 20:59:21 GMT 1
Hi Coenie Caulking basicly is a hemp that is soak in tar oil then hammered into the joints between the deck planks to make them waterproof unless anyone knows different
mike
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Post by nm on Sept 23, 2009 22:31:36 GMT 1
Caulking: I was just going to say it's filling the gaps between the planks.
nm
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Post by poulw on Sept 24, 2009 0:17:12 GMT 1
Guys please help? I'm not in the modeling business so long, what is meant by caulking? Hi coenie, Real caulking is what mike describes, but in respect to modelling this is not achievable for physical reasons (1mm wide planks). So what modellers do, is to create an effect which looks like a deck has caulking. There are a few ways to do this (eg. using a sharp pencil after the deck is laid and sanded, or painting the vertical side of the deck plank dark before glued in place), and sometimes people can be very inventive in their method too. Personally, I spray paint one side of a strip of veneer with black or dark grey mat paint before I cut the planks. But if you plan to make your own decks, then I suggest you have a read in "SWANRAIL's MODIFICATIONS AND TIPS", the sections about "Foredeck planking" and "Maindeck planking". That should give you a good guide on how to do it.
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Post by Mike B on Sept 24, 2009 7:47:58 GMT 1
Hi Coenie, I have had success by running a pencil lead along both sides of the plank before gluing it down.
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Post by coenie on Sept 24, 2009 8:41:04 GMT 1
Thanks, especially for the nice photo's mike. If your success was so simple, why the apparent difficult direction suggested by kriegsloko and will it be better for me not to use the printed parts from Hatchette and why? Sorry I'm sounding like a baby just discovering the world, but I'm sure it's because I stopped smoking. I understand more oxygen over the brain makes one curious.
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Post by poulw on Sept 24, 2009 9:31:22 GMT 1
Hi Coenie, Nothing beats a real planked deck. That's the reason so many prefer this to the printed decks from Hachette. Having said this, it also most likely involves a couple of months of planking, planking, and planking. But the result is very satisfying. Here is a picture of one of my decks using the "paint method" I described in my previous post This deck is made in scale 1:200, the same as your Bissy build.
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Post by coenie on Sept 24, 2009 11:52:21 GMT 1
Thanks, poulw. You're right, it just looks better. In the meantime I spend some time in Swanrail's section and learned alot there.
I'll have to think about doing this as time is a luxury I don't have, but thanks again.
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Post by Mike B on Sept 24, 2009 20:57:59 GMT 1
Hi Coenie, As we are behind the UK, I followed the threads about "own planking" with interest and was tempted to do the same. However, when my first piece of decking arrived, I was amazed at the quality and decided to go with Hachette's decking. Another thing to remember is that if your model is going into a display case, the deck will not be viewed all that close and I am quite happy with the supplied version. Another thing to remember is that here in SA, unless you can source the wood and cut your own planking strips, wood planks for ship modelling is very difficult to find unless ordered specially at an exhorbitant price. The model shops here only sell kits, everything else you get online or make yourself.
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Post by swanrail on Sept 24, 2009 22:16:31 GMT 1
Just a reminder in case you are not aware of it. At the start, Hachette offered "laser cut planks " (ie not printed ones). When we queried this with Hachette, they offered to supply us with "proper" planks on request. I was one of the ones who did request this, and they sent them well packed as a free additional item direct to me (although my issues normally come through the newsagent). In the end, I did not use them, as I had already done most of my deck planking. My planks were made from 1 metre lengths of 2 x 1mm, (the Hachette supplied ones are 330mm by 1mm by 1mm) and I painted one side of each with black acrylic artists paint to reperesent the caulking. At this scale, it is important not to overdo the caulking, hence only painted one side. After gluing down, sanded the whole lot smooth to about 1mm thick. Cut into the planks for ventilator bases, etc. using the Hachette priinted decks as a template. (used marquetry techiques to inlay the various shapes needed).
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