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Post by rod on Apr 14, 2009 2:41:42 GMT 1
Ugh fascinating, mind blowing and torturous to watch. You have far greater patience than me. I'm sure I saw some glue get on the strings when the top half and the bottom half came together..hehe.
But seriously, what an incredible effort. I would have sawn of the end of the bottle and patched it back up with some nicely placed decorative ropes to cover the cut.
Have some K
Rod
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2009 3:22:59 GMT 1
Wow. This is fantastic. I wouldn't have the patience to do it. Have a k.
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Post by popeye on Apr 14, 2009 11:33:34 GMT 1
Dear Mike
Superb !!!! Loved the video, especially my favourite piece of music
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Post by Mark on Apr 14, 2009 16:39:17 GMT 1
Words escape me - have another K
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Post by eric on Apr 14, 2009 17:16:47 GMT 1
Crickey Mike, brill video!
More Karma!
Blue Danube, great music, always reminds me of 2001 A Space Oddessy.
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Post by Mike B on Apr 14, 2009 22:09:28 GMT 1
NOW FOR MY FIRST MISTAKEAlthough I took every precaution (or so I thought!) to prevent the lines getting tangled, I wasted the better part of a day trying to untangle the rigging on the masts, between the masts and their corresponding holes in the deck. THEN, I HAD A LIGHTBULB MOMENT!I cut the rigging where it was attached to the masts and then starting from the mizzen mast position at the stern, straightened out all the mizzen mast threads ensuring no overlaps. These threads were then re-attached to the mast outside the bottle. This proved to be far easier than the original idea and if I build another sailing ship in a bottle, I will follow the original procedure up to the point of placing the rigging lines through the two hull pieces but not joining them to the masts. The lower hull will be fitted into the bottle as described, the threads pulled tight and the upper hull placed in the bottle. The rigging lines will be tightened and then the upper hull glued to the lower hull as before. The rigging from the upper hull will then be identified as just described and attached to the masts as described below. The sequence will be, 1 - Rig mizzen mast 2 - Insert mast into the bottle 3 – Glue mast into position 4 – Attach sails and rigging 5 – Main mast similar 6 – Fore mast similar 7 – Attach Jib sails Patience is a virtue………Whilst working on the mizzen mast, I snapped off the top section in two places. It snapped at the mounting holes for the yards. I made a new section and in future, when drilling holes in thin dowel, I will drill the hole and then put thin SG in it to strengthen the grain around the hole. When dry, the hole will be re-drilled. Here is the mizzen mast being “re-rigged”. Now the jib sail is folded in order to put the mast in the bottle. The threads are straightened and the mast readied for stepping. 5 min epoxy is applied to the mast socket and the mast is stepped. The rear lifeboat assembly is glued with 5 min epoxy. Now the sails are attached, starting from the bottom.
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Post by swanrail on Apr 14, 2009 22:41:57 GMT 1
You are doing an excelant job MikeB! I know what you are going through, I made some bottle models some 50 years ago, including a helicopter made on commission! Through your efforts, I went through my loft and found my model of a clipper ship built into a Red Label whisky bottle. Unfortunately, I found the detail very hard going on my eyesight and so did not fully complete the model, but for what it is worth how it came out: Detail on mine was not a patch on yours, so I admire your effort and look forward to the finished product.
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Post by swanrail on Apr 14, 2009 22:58:53 GMT 1
As an addendum to my last post, I would just like to say that those reading MikeBs posts will realise what a tricky job he is doing. I would rate the difficulty level as being much harder than the smallest brass bits of the Bismarck, and we all know how hard they are! As his latest post reinforces, the masts with a mass of rigging is a nightmare, as tangling up is a real problem, as well as working down a very narrow neck with tools on the end of a long rod. I made up cutting knifes by breaking razor blades and gluing them on something like 18 inches of thin rod, even then I needed a sawing action to cut with a danger of also cutting the next lead!! I do not think my hands are steady enough to even attempt such a job now. Well done MikeB and keep at it, your model will be very fine I am sure.
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Post by Mark on Apr 14, 2009 23:35:28 GMT 1
Your model is pretty impressive Don. I also have one that was built from a kit somewhere. I have a strange feeling that it wasn't quite finished..... (now where have we heard that one before !!) I must try and dig it out. Of course, being from a kit, everything was done by instruction, so was no where near as difficult as building one from scratch - especially one as masochistically difficult as Mike's !!
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Post by Mike B on Apr 15, 2009 20:24:28 GMT 1
Thanks, everyone for the encouragement and comments. Don, great model (Red label? - expensive tastes ;D). You are so right about the rigging. Even though I checked all the leads to the mast did not overlap, they still seemed to tangle as you put the mast into the bottle. To give you an idea, today doing the main mast, I spent all morning identifying the leads for the mast and checking that they did not cross each other. Have you ever tried to look at a lot of cotton threads through imperfect glass?. After fixing them to the mast and putting the mast into the bottle, I still battled to untangle them as they wrapped around the base of the mast and caught in the ratlines. A few hours later, it was ready to be stepped. It was an anticlimax applying glue to the socket and stepping the mast.
Mark, you hit the nail on the head - guys who put ships in bottles are definitely masochists!
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Post by mike on Apr 15, 2009 21:29:41 GMT 1
looking good ,will be great when finished
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Post by Mike B on Apr 15, 2009 21:35:03 GMT 1
The same procedure was followed with the main mast. The mast was rigged outside the bottle and then the lines pulled tight. The mast was then inserted, top first, gently pulling the threads as the mast moved down the bottle. Be very careful not to allow the mast to twist. One twist and you get an almighty tangle. (Tell me about it!) Once in the bottle, the mast was fitted temporarily and the rigging lines pulled to take out the slack. They were left slightly loose to allow the mast to be removed for gluing. The mast was glued and when set, the rigging was pulled tight and glued. Special tools had to constantly be made and modified as I went along.
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Post by mike on Apr 15, 2009 21:38:29 GMT 1
sorry MIKE only looked at two pages ignore last post ship in a bottle I could never do that BRILLIANT
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Post by rem2007 on Apr 15, 2009 22:43:49 GMT 1
Have you ever considered neurosurgery, brilliant work mate!
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Post by Mark on Apr 15, 2009 23:19:02 GMT 1
Have you ever considered neurosurgery, brilliant work mate! No need to cut a hole in the head - Mike could work through the nose ;D
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