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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 7, 2010 22:31:45 GMT 1
I thought that I'd add this Cap Tally to the display case, when I eventually get it all completed, any thoughts on this? Julian
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Post by coenie on Feb 9, 2010 17:02:53 GMT 1
Hi Julian, I think it looks good if I'm right to say it's the name printed on material, but that's how far I would like to go.
Please explain what the first part of the name is in "perfect" English (my turn on the soap box), what is meant by CAP Tally and how you intend to place it on/in the display case.
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 9, 2010 18:26:58 GMT 1
Hello Coenie. The first word is " Battleship " A cap tally, is a strip of nylon, rayon, or silk, as the early ones were made of, approx 36 inches long, with the name of the ship that you are serving on, embroydered in gold thread, or gold wire, when you join a ship, the very first thing you get issued with are two cap tallies, with that ships name on, so you had to place the tally on your cap, and tie it with a bow, the bow always over the left ear, and the name of the ship displayed across the front, I kept all the tallies of the ships that I served on and have them in a display case along with the badges off my uniform, I will try and put a photo on for you to see what I mean. I don't know if you know this or not, but H.M.S. means His, or Her, Majestys Ship. Does that make it any clearer to you? I thought that I could just fix the Bissy tally somewhere on or in the display case. By the way these tallies are very collectable, some originals ( not copy ones, that are around on ebay ) for the older ships fetch anything up to £100.00. Julian.
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Post by bruno on Feb 9, 2010 21:10:29 GMT 1
Thank you for the Bismarck Cap Tally julianbest1.
Very nice
With your permission, I think a pict of it will look fine at the bottom of my Bissy show case
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 9, 2010 22:42:13 GMT 1
This one might be better for you then, tried about ten times to fold it and get it fairly straight in the scanner, if you think it is not to your liking let me know and I will have another shot at it in the morning. Regards. Julian.
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Post by coenie on Feb 10, 2010 18:13:50 GMT 1
Thanks for the explanation Julian, but you actually made me more curious.
What's the meaning of the badges in the right hand corner of your display case?
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Post by grantj on Feb 10, 2010 19:06:27 GMT 1
Great idea Julian!
I have been thinking about doing something similar on my base.
I know the Royal Navy ships had a coat of arms and was wondering if the Bismarck had one but have been unable to find anything on the net. If anyone has any reference to such a thing I would be pleased to hear from them.
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 10, 2010 19:30:38 GMT 1
OK! The anchor is a Leading Rates badge, I think the equivalent to a Corporal in the Army, the screw with the stars, is the trade badge for Mechanical Engineer, the first one you get is without any stars, then you work your way up to a Mechanical Engineer 1st class, so you are given the first star for 2nd class then the 2nd star for 1st class, the divers helmet is a sub branch that you achieve when you do the divers course, and that badge is worn on the cuff of the right sleeve, now the stripes, which are not called stripes in the Navy by the way,they are called badges, and you get one badge for every four years service for good conduct, now I did 12 years in the Navy, but finished up with only two good conduct badges, because I lost one as punishment for a bit of a scrap I got into in Trincomalee, it wasn't much, and it wasn't our fault!!, we were in Trinco the same time as the Yankee 6th fleet, and on shore leave there was a bit of an argument in the NAAFI nothing to serious but the place sort of changed it's appearence with a broken piano etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great life though. Julian
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Post by grantj on Feb 10, 2010 21:52:04 GMT 1
Julian you are an absolute star!
Have a K!
That was exactly what I was looking for and will redraw it in Coreldraw and get a real high definition drawing to print out and put on my base. I may also use your cap tally as a nameplate (if you dont mind!)
Thanks again
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Post by Mike B on Feb 10, 2010 22:10:46 GMT 1
This one might be better for you then, tried about ten times to fold it and get it fairly straight in the scanner, if you think it is not to your liking let me know and I will have another shot at it in the morning. Regards. Julian. Thanks for the info, Julian. I will make the nameplate for my Bissie using your example. I will make it the same way that I made the nameplate for my "Victory", except it will be gold on black as in example. buildthebismark.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tips&action=display&thread=2338
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Post by nm on Feb 10, 2010 23:46:50 GMT 1
I think there's a crest on the bow of the Bismarck. nm
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 11, 2010 0:12:15 GMT 1
That's correct, and the crest, which is also the Bismarck family crest, is also worn by Bismarck survivors. Julian.
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 11, 2010 11:48:24 GMT 1
I'm sticking these two pics on just in case someone might want to copy them, it is a high gloss photograph. Julian.
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Post by julianbest1 on Feb 11, 2010 11:50:29 GMT 1
This is the reverse side, as can be seen there is a missprint on it!
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Post by Mark on Feb 13, 2010 13:39:56 GMT 1
Copyright note : I am assuming that these images are free from copyright. If not, please can you remove them.
If you are the copyright owner and want them removed, just let me know.
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