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Post by trev on Aug 26, 2007 13:12:03 GMT 1
Ok well my thinking behind this thread is for the aussies to post about any problems questions or just general info/photos of the hull build.
I for one am sure I will be one of the ones asking for help and clarification from those that have gone before us.
Well I will kick this off.
Issue 1
All I have done so far is number all the parts in pencil and cut them out and sanded off the nibs from where they were joined to the part frame.
Other than that not much really to do yet as I will be following Marks advice and not gluing anything til we have a few more issues.
I have also drawn on the center lines on the parts to make sure I dont end up with the infamous banana boat.
Trev
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Post by swanrail on Aug 26, 2007 22:18:43 GMT 1
If you intend fitting the 3 engine R/C kit, then I would recommend studying Markus data on his R/C thread as certain mods need to be made to the keel very early on.
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Post by notsoablseamanpete on Aug 27, 2007 0:13:16 GMT 1
G'day trev,
I've subscribed as well. the wait for the first delivery is going to drive me insane, specially as next time i pass the newsagency, part 2 will be sitting there looking at me! *sigh*
Am going to follow Marks advice also, so the wait to really get into the build is going to drag on somewhat.
still, some patience now will surely be worth it in the long run!
cheers pete
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Post by Rod on Aug 27, 2007 10:35:23 GMT 1
I'm with you guys. Just waiting for parts 2,3,4,5 to arrive all at once with my first delivery along with all the free goodies.
I've got the keel sitting on a board with all the lines drawn down the middle to keep the keel straight.
I went to bunnings on the weekend and bought 6 x 99c clamps and some more expensive adjustable ones - all ready for the big build.
Don't know about anyone else but I found some Aquadhere durabond polyurethane glue. Slow drying but when it dries its tuff stuff.
Good luck to all Aussies as we embark on this journey, safe in the knowledge that those who have gone before us will show us the way.
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Post by trev on Aug 28, 2007 13:15:50 GMT 1
Hi Rod
According to bisett (the distributor) our first delivery will only contain issues 2 and 3.
After that it will be issues 4,5,6,7 and so on.
I have planned a trip to bunnings too for this weekend to see what goodies I can find, and thanks for the info on the clamps as they are on my list.
Also thanks to swanrail for reminding those that are having the bismark as an R/c need to make adjustments.
I have decided to keep my bismark static.
Trev
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Post by trev on Aug 29, 2007 2:23:49 GMT 1
Just a quick note to say that issue 2 is out as of today at newsagents.
If you have subscribed then once issue 3 comes out next wednesday our first package should be sent out containing issues 2 and 3 you should only be charged $$8.95 for issue 2 and issue 3 is free)
There after we will receive issues 4, 5,6,7 at $14.95 each.
I am going to get issues 2 and 3 via the newsagent although I have subscribed just untill I receive my first batch in the mail that will confirm my subscription is correct etc.
Of course this will mean I have duplicates of issues 2 and 3 but thats ok incase we have any late comers to the forum that missed out on 2 and 3 :-)
Trev
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Post by poulw on Aug 31, 2007 4:42:38 GMT 1
G'day All, I am at the finishing state of the hull of a 1/200 scratchbuilt model of French WWII battleship Richelieu made from drawings readily available on the internet. (See my site www.poulw.bigblog.com.au/ ) Yesterday I purchased #1 of the "Build the Bismarck" to see what this kit is all about, and I am in serious doubt if I want to go on with it. I do have the following reservations: 1) There doesn't seem to be much saving in labour (hours) compared to cutting the frames yourself from drawings 2) It seems to be very pricy when added all up 3) I don't like a construction of the keel made in sections instead of one sturdy piece 4) Planking in sections is also a problem to me. Again, not rigid enough. Apart from the thorough "Week by Week" description, does anyone know if there is feedback available from modellers who have actually finished the hull? Cheers .... Poul
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Post by Mark on Aug 31, 2007 5:31:53 GMT 1
Hi Poul,
Nice blog you've got started there. Have a look at some of the German forums. They are working ahead of the UK and have some completed hulls.
The reservations you mention are all compromises that a partwork has to make. The parts have to be roughly magazine sized for packaging. However, with careful building the completed hull will be sturdy.
Partworks are always more expensive compared to buying a boxed kit. Mainly because you have to pay for the magazine and the explicit instructions. If you are happier scratch building then a partwork may not give you enough of a challenge.
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Post by poulw on Aug 31, 2007 7:24:04 GMT 1
Thanks Mark, Your comments sound reasonable, so I'll have an extra think about going ahead or not and also have a look at the German forums. Cheers .... Poul
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Post by rod on Aug 31, 2007 12:41:43 GMT 1
Guys we're not building a "real" battleship. I'm using a polyurethane glue for the hull and the damn stuff is so tough the wood will break way before the glue. I even tried pulling the keel apart once it had set - no way. Its also rigid so has good strength as well as good bonding. So I don't actually agree with your points 3 & 4. I will grant you your boat may be a little stronger, but how strong does it have to be? I think this Bismark will be plenty tough for any action its going to see.
I agree the cost is an issue when added up in a lump sum but again, over the course of 2 years? its maybe one night out per month? I can sacrifice one of those, I'm out every Friday night.. A small investment to make for something that I'll treasure for the rest of my life..
Finally your first point about labour saving on the frames. I must admit I don' t have a laser cutter handy so I'll bow to your skills on that one. Suffice to say my skills are limited to snapping the laser cut piece off the sprue. (Do you use that word in the wood modelling community?)
cheers
Rod
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Post by Mark on Aug 31, 2007 12:47:21 GMT 1
Suffice to say my skills are limited to snapping the laser cut piece off the sprue. (Do you use that word in the wood modelling community?) We do Rod, but the sprue is generally the waste part of a moulding. In this case it's a fret. Originally because it would have been cut out with a fret saw, in the days before laser cutting. Anybody wanna borrow my anorak ;D
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Post by alanv on Aug 31, 2007 13:45:00 GMT 1
I've just done some fretsaw work on an old Billings Bounty. I was pleased with the results and it is very theraputic..
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Post by poulw on Aug 31, 2007 14:36:10 GMT 1
Hi Rod, No matter how you build a model, 99% of of the result comes from your enthusiasm about your model. I am sure your Bismarck will be an absolute gem which you can be very proud of. All the best wishes, Poul
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Post by swanrail on Aug 31, 2007 21:12:16 GMT 1
Also remember the etchings which appear to be of high quality (when we get them) and would be impossible to duplicate in detail by scratch building. (although one site has such a model but took decades to build!!!). Etchings tend to be expensive. We have also found sites selling completed models of similar standard and at very very high cost!
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Post by napoleon on Aug 31, 2007 21:58:10 GMT 1
Hi poulw,
Firstly, nice blog you've got setup. Your scratchbuild Richelieu looks to be coming on well and I wish I had the ability to do the same sort of project. However, I'm not so blessed with expertise so the Bismarck build is my level. After 23 issues, my hull looks OK and I have derived lots of pleasure from building it and showing it off to my family and friends. Best wishes with whatever course you steam!
Napoleon
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