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Post by swanrail on Jan 26, 2008 12:13:29 GMT 1
I have posted in my Swanrail section a thread on portholes, showing how this was carried out on other models. I would not recommend shoe type eyelets as they do not look very authentic and clumsy, a fault I found with the Hachette Titanic.
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Post by eric on Jan 26, 2008 14:31:46 GMT 1
I have drilled out my second line of portholes. At the stern I was happy to drill right through because it will be easy to seal them from behind, but at the bow it would be next to impossible to seal them, so I didn't drill right through th hull....just a couple of mils in, so I have no watertight issuse at all.
I noticed that according to the Anatomy book the portholes at the bow are different port to starboard....hope I got it right!!
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Post by swanrail on Jan 26, 2008 18:58:33 GMT 1
and at the stern!!!
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Post by jim on Jan 26, 2008 19:30:08 GMT 1
if you look at the german preview website in issue 54 we get templates for the portholes
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Post by jim on Jan 26, 2008 19:38:07 GMT 1
just an aside, I didnt use the fore and aft supplied ply parts for the portholes planked them with left over planks and used the ply parts as a template. then drilled the ports.
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Post by eric on Jan 27, 2008 1:05:12 GMT 1
Yes, got that! But the diference at the stern with the bottom portholes is small, however, I will have to alter the top porthole on the port side significantly from the supplied Hatchette veneer. Ah well......where did I leave my filler??? Also, looking at page 70 of the 'Bismark, history and destiny' pages with the issues, there is a very good close-up of the aft portholes seeming to show the eyebrows....but no other detail, very plain in fact, no sign of a surrounding ridge on them.
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Post by Mike B on Jan 27, 2008 8:52:44 GMT 1
Ive located a source for eyelets a company called Attwells in Rochdale manufacture eyelets in all shapes and sizes. I have requested a price for their product no. L585 it has a 2mm barrel and a 3.2mm shoulder. I reckon they should do since the portholes are 2mm holes. here is a link to their website for anyone interested. www.atwellengineering.co.uk scroll down to universal eyelets they look pretty good as portholes. Hi Jim, here is a picture of my Titanic's portholes. I decided not to paint them with the hull but installed them afterward's with a drop of CA in the hole. I also countersunk the holes in the hull slightly to enable the eyelets to sit flush with the hull. I am pleased with the result.
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Post by jim on Jan 27, 2008 14:04:36 GMT 1
Thats what im after. Looks good
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Post by afkmatrix on Jan 27, 2008 19:14:08 GMT 1
Jim did you receive a reply to how much Attwells is going to charge for there L585 eyelets? How many do we get as well?
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Post by Bry on Jan 31, 2008 14:54:06 GMT 1
How about using Bootlace Ferrules. I have some for electrical installations. Any electrical wholesalers, couple of quid for a 100 and various sizes.
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 17, 2008 17:51:37 GMT 1
Right well I have nearly cut out my replacement ply parts from 1mm lime sheeting. And will be scanning my Anatomy book tonight to get the proper number of portholes to cut. Now what I am wondering about is the second row of portholes lower down on the hull I have seen in the Anatomy book. I have seen some buillds have them and some don't, to the people who have done them did you just estimate where they went and then did you drill the holes straigh through the hull or only throught he second planking?
I have also been thinking about lighting up these port holes and was thinking if I drilled right through the hull and then put some clear plastic on the inside with some epoxy that I could then put a light inside to shine out. Would the expoy + plastic sheet be waterproof though?
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Post by nm on Mar 17, 2008 20:02:52 GMT 1
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 17, 2008 22:12:54 GMT 1
Thanks for that nm,
I am definitely going to be putting the 2 rows of portholes in at the stern and bow its just I am not sure if I should just do them very shallow (ie 2nd planking deep) or go right the way through and then use the plastic sheet and epoxy idea i had?
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Post by nm on Mar 17, 2008 22:25:40 GMT 1
Don't know where I saw it - maybe someone can help - but there was talk of using fibre optics. Glue them in and they're watertight too!
NM
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 18, 2008 1:34:15 GMT 1
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