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Post by juan on Apr 12, 2011 2:03:24 GMT 1
Hi Guys, I have completed the hull i'm on issue 84, i'm on the painting sanding. painting,sanding,painting ,sanding,painting,sanding,painting, sanding, infinite........... part, so my question how do i have to "met" the main deck with the hull,should I sand it dow to make it fit inside the hull? I want to make it flush I gonna make it RC so it must be removable can you enlight me?.
Thank You
Juan
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Post by eric on Apr 12, 2011 8:53:54 GMT 1
With mine, I initialy just sanded down the deck and dropped it inside the hull, but this was a mistake. The decking you get with the kit is designed with a 1 or 2mm edge around it, by the time I have finished sanding down the deck to fit inside, it was too narrow for the printed decking! I had to correct the hull (as Markus did) by stripping off the top layer of hull planks in the armoured recess area and then putting in a second layer of planks ontop of the single layer and continuing this up to the deck level. The deck now fitted in at its original width. There is a drawing that Markus made that illistrates this well, but I can't find it! My hull before modification, note depth of step in armour. My hull after modification, see the step is much reduced in depth. This is actually more to scale than originally.
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Post by swanrail on Apr 14, 2011 11:30:26 GMT 1
I modified my hull as shown on my section SWANRAILS HINTS"S AND TIPS, "Side extensions". Here, I added and extra plank abouve the hull, such that the main deck was a tight fit inside it. The main deck was then "properly" planked to make it flush. finished deck can be seen in 10th. April 2008.... section of mine. The deck is held in place by small magnets, is very close fitting so should be watertight but allows easy acess.
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Post by juan on Apr 15, 2011 2:48:25 GMT 1
Thank You Swanrail. let me know if i understood Well, You added an extra plank over the two upper planks of the recesed part of the hull, then sanded down the hole decks to made them fit inside the added plank, do you have any more pictures, the idea of using a thin metal layer crossed my mind to do what you did with the plank. When you sanded down the Deck ho did you do to stick the printed deck? wasn it bigger than the wood deck I added a sketch Thanks Juan
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Post by eric on Apr 15, 2011 21:19:01 GMT 1
Juan, swanrail is one of our top scratch modelers and has done an amazing job of making his own decking, strip by strip!
This allowed him to have the deck at any width he chose.
With the supplied decking you need to add an extra layer of planks In the thin section of your diagram up to the deck level. This allows the deck to fit inside the hull without narrowing it.
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Post by juan on Apr 26, 2011 1:45:37 GMT 1
ok, i can't figure it out how to make the supplied deck to fit inside the hull without narrowing it, if i do, then the supplied printed deck will be to wide to fit inside the hull as my diagram shows, so let me know if I got your idea, I have to wide up the armoured reccesed area by how much? how do i do this? Juan
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Post by popeye on Apr 26, 2011 13:20:45 GMT 1
Dear juan
I increased the height of the hull with an extra 6mm strip round the top, which I had to glue onto the existing topmost strip and reinforce it at the join (if I were building it again and knew ahead of time that I needed to do this then I would have used a 12mm strip instead of the topmost 6mm - incidentally, for the second layer I used 1m long mahogony strips from my local hobby shop instead of the 1ft limewood strips supplied, much stronger, better looking and easier to fit). This did mean that I had to sand down the edge of the decks and deck covering sheets to fit inside, but in engineering terms it is much better and easier to fit. See page 2 of popeye's build (it is on the second page of the Build Diary's) where you can see the finished result, along with my other hobby - cooking. The pages also give you the web address where there are more and detailed photos of the build process.
Good luck
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Post by juan on Apr 27, 2011 0:31:30 GMT 1
So let me know if i got your idea you sanded down the deck to fit inside the extension plank you added to increase the hull height and you also sanded down the printed deck sheets to make them fit the sanded wood deck you sanded before.
Juan
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Post by eric on Apr 27, 2011 8:50:40 GMT 1
Not quite.
Start by following the supplied instructions and build up the hull so the deck sits on top of it.
Now you put on a second layer of planks (I bought 1 metre length ones for this) over this first layer, build up the planks so that they go right up to deck level. The deck should drop inside without any real sanding.
The instructions only have one layer of planks in the recessed area, you will now have two layers. This reduces the depth of the step in the hull, but it makes the step more accurate in my opinion.
You should not need to sand or trim the supplied decking at all.
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Post by popeye on Apr 27, 2011 12:49:30 GMT 1
Dear juan
In my case, I added the extra plank on top and in line with the rest of the planking (to preserve the contour of the hull, rather than have a piece jutting out at the top), this meant that I did have to sand down the insert and printed sheets around the edge to fit inside. Eric's method is also very suitable and you don't have to do the sanding down then.
I won't be upset or insulted if you follow his proposal.
Anyway, he outranks me !
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Post by juan on Apr 27, 2011 16:03:20 GMT 1
Thank you Guys, Now I got the idea, I have finished the hull, I guess I'll wait to recieve the printed decks and then I'll decide which way to do it both ideas look good, anyway in the two cases I'll have to sand the added plank to make it flush wit the top of the deck otherwise i'll have my deck sitting to low and have a step over it, thank you both and soon I'll post pictures of my hull
Juan
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