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Post by Achtung!! on Jul 10, 2007 15:15:09 GMT 1
wel in issue 12 planks - some are too long and some are the right length....
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Post by rwclancer on Jul 10, 2007 17:01:31 GMT 1
That is ok, I thought I had a duff batch. I have just received my planking clamps and am ready for planking. On trying to fit the end clamps I am finding that they are splitting the planks because the hole has to be so close to the end of the plank. Am I doing anything wrong? I suppose the centre ones will not have this problem as the hole is not near the ends.
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Post by rwclancer on Jul 10, 2007 19:34:12 GMT 1
When planking the stern does the plank that touches part 45a also have to touch part 41. The angle on my model is quite severe after part 45a and the plank would really have to bend. Have I made a mistake during hull construction? I seem to be getting more problems with planking than all the construction previously done. Many thanks
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Post by eric on Jul 10, 2007 23:09:07 GMT 1
I have only just started planking issue 12 so i'm not that far on, but offering up a plank, it looks like it's supposed to be in contact with all the ribs.
Can you post a photo? mark is the man to help here me thinks....
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Post by swanrail on Jul 10, 2007 23:11:10 GMT 1
Your stern should look like the picture 10 on page 28 of the build instructions (issue 14).
The plank must definitely touch both 45a and 41, as a nice and smooth line. With this model, very little forcing should be necessary to get planks in the right place.
Is it all the planks in this area, or just those nearer the keel?
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Post by Achtung!! on Jul 11, 2007 8:23:19 GMT 1
Well im finding that a bit of force is needed to get the planks to meet as the planks near the keel in issue 12 - cant remember which step it is!!
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Post by rwclancer on Jul 11, 2007 11:29:01 GMT 1
Thanks for your replies. It is just part 45a to part 41 that is the problem, all the others fit well. I have not actually started planking yet but am test fitting them. I have bought some planking clamps but cant seem to get them to work. I might get some modelling pins and see if I get on better with them. How do I put a photo on the site?
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Post by rwclancer on Jul 12, 2007 0:21:17 GMT 1
Does anyone know what thickness of pin is best for planking? Thanks
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Post by ph on Jul 13, 2007 13:24:54 GMT 1
Hello rwclancer
This is my first time at modeling and iv just started planking,
I started using map pins but found them 2 thick so iv started using dress makers pins, the 1s with the plastic bobble on end, iv found them a lot better i just use a pair of long nose pliers to push them in.
I also grand the end of the pliers so thay not as pointed on end.
hope that helps
cheers
paul
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Post by eric on Jul 13, 2007 13:30:40 GMT 1
I am planking round the bilge keel area midships and am finding the planks are needing to be bent up like a bow in the middle to meet the previous plank as they go round the bend. its becoming more pronounced with every plank. normal I hope!?!?
Sorry if this sounds like a daft question, but is this is my first ever such build I have no experience to rely on.
P.S. paul, if you had tried to glue several planks together for this bit you would not have been happy!!!
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Post by ph on Jul 13, 2007 13:45:44 GMT 1
Hello Peeps
help needed,after looking at my planks,my first plank looks like its set 2 high,
it overlaps the recess at the top of the ribs, not much but will this be ok.
cheers
paul
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Post by Mark on Jul 13, 2007 14:03:09 GMT 1
Hi Paul,
It's probably OK - just means that you might have to sand the planks that go in the recess to fit. What do you mean by not much ?
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Post by daveb on Jul 13, 2007 18:47:14 GMT 1
Hi Guys, I have been busy planking the frame and have got as far as issue 12. I have been finding it most enjoyable. After an initial stall I finally got stuck in. I too have found that dress-making pins are a very good solution....but my skirt keeps falling down.  Seriously, this site has been a great help with the wealth of experience here and I'm more optomistic that the problems encountered can be surmounted. I've purchased up to issue 20, so there's plenty more to do. Thanks for running this site, Mark!  |
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Post by swanrail on Jul 13, 2007 22:46:23 GMT 1
Planks should go round quite easily on this model, as the hull curvature is very slight. however, if you find planks do not want to sit together for gluing, then soak the planks for about an hour in hot water, then then become more pliable so you can pin them into their correct places, allow to dry thoroughly (else it will weaken the glue), remove pins, apply glue and pin back on and allow to dry again.
Note that gluing the sides of the planks has two benefits: 1 it considerably strengthens the hull and 2 it makes for waterproof joints.
I use "brass" pins from other models, set in three quarter way, and pull out with normal pliers (drive in with a veneer hammer). So it makes a fairly large hole, so what? it partly closes up of its own accord (wood fibres tend to do this) and the rest filled with wood filler then it cannot be seen anyway.
This modelshould not require stealers, if so, you are doing it wrong!!!
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Post by ph on Jul 13, 2007 23:00:02 GMT 1
Hello Mark
Just had a good look at me planks and thay seem ok close to the recess,not that bad.
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