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Post by markus on May 30, 2007 17:17:17 GMT 1
Don't know if anyone is interested but have seen a set of motors for the Bismarck on German E-bay site at a better price than Hachettes - Search using 230136562410 will bring you to them - 2 motors for £33 and 3 for £53 (both plus P&P) - My kit is going to be static otherwise I would have got a set for myself. Paul B the motor sets in ebay are exactly those i offered in this thread. in germany i offer those sets only at ebay, because german bismarck forums are full of faultfinders. lots of people there think they're experts (after beginning with their first wooden ship ;D) and their way to build the bismarck is the only right one... that's why i stopped posting there and simply amuse myself when these "experts" show pics of their results cheers markus
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Post by Mikey on Jun 4, 2007 15:52:46 GMT 1
HI guys, I was just wondering if some of our more experienced members could explain how to waterproof those places where we need to hole the hull for prop and rudder shafts. I'm guessing this would be quite necessary if your not looking to re-enact the Bismarck's final moments?
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Post by markus on Jun 4, 2007 17:16:32 GMT 1
HI guys, I was just wondering if some of our more experienced members could explain how to waterproof those places where we need to hole the hull for prop and rudder shafts. I'm guessing this would be quite necessary if your not looking to re-enact the Bismarck's final moments? just glue the shafts with 5min-epoxi.. this gives a strong and waterproof connection between wood and steel. even large gaps between both materials can be filled if you put a piece of tape on the outside of the hull when gluing from the inside. just have a look at the pics i posted - i also had some gaps to fill markus
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Post by steve on Jun 5, 2007 9:46:34 GMT 1
HI im steve here so just wondering if i get free radio controlled for my bismarck or not? cos im deafness and i need to know if get it free or not so if not.what kind of radio controlled i get it and what price for it and what kind of it??? help me please? ? thks
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Post by markus on Jun 5, 2007 12:30:05 GMT 1
HI im steve here so just wondering if i get free radio controlled for my bismarck or not? cos im deafness and i need to know if get it free or not so if not.what kind of radio controlled i get it and what price for it and what kind of it??? help me please? ? thks the radio control set including motors from hachette was offered in germany for 169 euro. i call it rubbish because of too big rudders to be mounted at the wrong place, a AM radio control instead of FM, and so on... here the link: www.subifa.de/heftvorschau/vorzugsangebot.htmmarkus
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Post by Mikey on Jun 5, 2007 19:25:37 GMT 1
Hi. While searching the web, I came across a shop that do some nice r/c sets. Their own range do a nice 40MHz 4 channel set which looks to be FM, but don't hold me to it, for around £35. Just think of all those moving bits you can have with multiple channels!!! ;D To take a look, got to: www.technobots.co.uk. Unfortunately, they don't deliver outsied of the uk!
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Post by steveo on Jun 6, 2007 7:59:51 GMT 1
There are quite a few 40mhz 4-channel FM systems available in the UK, Futaba & Acoms to name just two, the going price is around the £100 mark or try ebay where you could pick a godd set up for silly money. Usually cheap RC gear means just that
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Post by Mikey on Jun 6, 2007 13:40:08 GMT 1
Just a quick question, what are the operating differences between AM and FM radio gear? Also, is there any benefit to operating at 40 MHz as opposed to 27MHz?
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Post by steveo on Jun 6, 2007 15:05:06 GMT 1
Firstly you cant mix the two ie 27mhz transmitter & 40mhz receiver, servos operate on whatever frequency you use as they are governed by the receiver.
Basically 27mhz on the am band is is old hat and is what is called a general RC channel, it is used by anyone and every one from CB'ers to every kind of RC model you can imagine with the exception of airborne models (though you may find an odd one or two 27mhz airborne models around which are illegal in the UK), thus this channel has masses of interference which could ultimately mean you loose control of your model....not a nice situation in the midldle of the pond! 40Mhz on the AM band band is much less prone to interference but is much better than the 27mhz band, 40Mhz on the FM band is the ultimate for RC surface use, my choice would be 40Mhz FM each n every time.
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Post by steve on Jun 6, 2007 17:39:14 GMT 1
I Saw www.techcobots website and i saw Their own range a nice 40MHz 4 channel set so what kind of sets i needed for my bismarck examples.servo.props.tubes,battery,etc so what i can get it fully radio contolled so can u give a lists of these items tht i can fix it for me bismarck please? because i havent got the faintest idea to buy it so it my first time making bismarck.......steve
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Post by markus on Jun 6, 2007 19:22:06 GMT 1
I Saw www.techcobots website and i saw Their own range a nice 40MHz 4 channel set so what kind of sets i needed for my bismarck examples.servo.props.tubes,battery,etc so what i can get it fully radio contolled so can u give a lists of these items tht i can fix it for me bismarck please? because i havent got the faintest idea to buy it so it my first time making bismarck.......steve i posted all necessary or optional parts in page 4 of this thread in case of any questions feel free to mail me cheers markus
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Post by steveo on Jun 8, 2007 12:17:42 GMT 1
Dont take this the wrong way but it might be an idea you stick with the RC gear that is being offered via Hachette when it comes available in the future, it has already been highlighted on here somewhere. Markus's set up looks great but not for the faint hearted or novice but will leave markus to advise on what he thinks
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Post by markus on Jun 8, 2007 17:34:32 GMT 1
Dont take this the wrong way but it might be an idea you stick with the RC gear that is being offered via Hachette when it comes available in the future, it has already been highlighted on here somewhere. Markus's set up looks great but not for the faint hearted or novice but will leave markus to advise on what he thinks ok - here's what i think: the bismarck partwork was offered in germany as "easy to build" , but reality looks quite different. in my opinion this partwork is suitable for advanced model builders, especially if you want to make a r/c model of it. in this case it makes no difference if you use my drive set or that from hachette. my 2-motor-setup is not more complicated to built in than the set from hachette, only the 3-motor-setup needs a bit more modification to mount the inner prop shaft. the main disadvantage from hachette's set are the used parts which result in a look totally different form the original. that's why i built my own drive for this ship
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Post by bob on Jun 8, 2007 19:27:02 GMT 1
Well said I like your setup, especially using the v-mixer for additional steering. I am considering two motors for my model and am going to do something similar plus I may make the rudder(s) a bit taller to assist steering. I was too late to make the modification for a third motor as I have almost completed my first layer of planks.
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Post by markus on Jun 8, 2007 22:01:00 GMT 1
Well said I like your setup, especially using the v-mixer for additional steering. I am considering two motors for my model and am going to do something similar plus I may make the rudder(s) a bit taller to assist steering. I was too late to make the modification for a third motor as I have almost completed my first layer of planks. there's no need to make the rudders taller because the mixer lets the ship turn even without any rudders user "swanrail" made it to do the modification for the third motor, even after planking was done markus
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