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Post by Matthew. on Mar 16, 2007 0:18:54 GMT 1
i think it would be nice if i could get a set of real plans so we can take a look at them ill go and look around google soon and see if i can find them if any of you have them could you please post
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Post by dirk on Mar 17, 2007 13:59:28 GMT 1
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Post by steveo on Mar 18, 2007 11:25:57 GMT 1
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Post by blane on Apr 3, 2007 16:32:25 GMT 1
Hello Matthew,
the best plan of the Bismarck sells Hans Gally. It is a private man from Germany. The plan is on a scale 1/100 and consists of 4 plan roles. The plan costs 90€. Whether Mr. Gally sends away also the plan to Wales, I do not know. Also there is still another 1/100 plan of Harhaus. It is identical to 90% to the Gally plan. It costs however 150€
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2008 6:03:16 GMT 1
If the plans are in Russia, how did Amati get copies to build the model from ??
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Post by al1x on May 22, 2008 12:21:50 GMT 1
They can't both be right  According to the hachette the blurb for the model says it has been designed from original plans which one would assume can only be those that originate from Blohm & Voss. In theory if what Fox says is fact then his 1/200 plan set should have identical detail to our model, or did hachette take advantage of the Fox plan's? In which case if the Fox plans are accurate and we have a model designed from original plans both should be identical, if not then which of the two parties is right & more so do we have a model based on original plans? It does make you wonder how did hachette come by original plans if they do not exist, surely the ones they have can only be the Fox plans if what Fox says is fact? Hmm interesting scenario......... |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2008 13:29:42 GMT 1
yeah very interesting.  |
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Post by nm on May 22, 2008 18:54:38 GMT 1
Ah, but what are "the real plans"? The design evolved before building started, during the build, and while the ship was in service as thinking, experience and technology evolved. Maybe the plans show more rangefinders on the turrets than were actually installed.
Here's an AltaVista translation of a German review of the Revell 1/144 plastic kit - not the clearest description, but his impression of the model doesn't match his impression of the original:
Best kit of the Bimarck, which is available at present in this yardstick. Particularly gur the conversion of the Flakbewaffnung, the ship's boats with the transparent parts, the cranes and the chimney please me. However it is not perfect for a long time, contains it also some drops of bitterness. The structure of the Hauptdecks is mainly in the figure eight range and with the breakwater washes (with me anyhow), the Großmast with the lump as driving indicators, which cast-on Fußpferden to the Rahen and the centrifuge cars for the airplanes one could have also much better gotten with the today's technology. In addition the deck is shown in the range around the catapult wrongly, the skylights is wrongly represented. Still to mention would be, which contains the building guidance in the section 88 and 89 errors. But despite all this error results in the kit also an acceptable result if one builds it for “original from the box”.
NM
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Post by Mike B on May 22, 2008 23:12:53 GMT 1
Mark,
If you remember, about issue 60 of the Titanic series, Hachette supplied an A1 size sheet of 1:1 scale plans of the side and front elevations and also a plan view of the decks of the Titanic in colour. Do you know if this will be the case with the Bismarck?
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Post by Mark on May 22, 2008 23:47:19 GMT 1
Hi Mike,
Yes, those plans were very useful, even if they were, somewhat annoyingly, slightly smaller than the model. I've no idea if Hachette are going to supply a similar plan for the Bismarck.
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