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Post by swanrail on Feb 25, 2008 18:49:34 GMT 1
There is a chap from Poland advertising them fairly often on e-bay.
Do a search for Bismarck now and again and eventually you will find it (seems to have a lot of them plus same scale plans for other warships).
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Post by swanrail on Feb 25, 2008 19:08:18 GMT 1
Just checked tonight, he is not there at the moment, but a set of plans at 200 scale is being offered by NM Models (www.nauticalmarinemodels), although do not look as good as the other ones.
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Post by nm on Feb 25, 2008 19:13:54 GMT 1
Plans at moduni.de:
Plan of the german battleship Bismarck 1:200
Item no. 6023011
moduni-price: 29,99 EUR
Price including VAT
plus Shipping and handling
Delivery expected in 4 weeks
Plan
Manufacturer: Deutsches Schiffahrtsmuseum
Scale: 1:200
Looked up that museum website - 27 euro there! Get to the publications page: there are three columns, this is from the second heading in the third colunm (and it's near the end of that page).
Try this in a translation tool.
Planmappe Schlachtschiff BISMARCK
Auf 14 aufklappbaren großformatigen Plänen, die von der Werft Blohm & Voß bereitgestellt wurden und die Decks- und Raumaufteilung der BISMARCK im Sommer 1940 im Maßstab 1:200 zeigen, wird deutlich, um was für ein kompliziertes System es sich bei dem deutschen Schlachtschiff gehandelt hat, das am 27. Mai 1941 versenkt wurde. Die Pläne werden ergänzt durch eine ebenfalls großformatige Seitenansicht eines Modellbauplans der BISMARCK sowie eine Begleitschrift, die eine kurze Einführung in die Materie liefert und die Komplexität des Schiffes anhand von seltenem Fotomaterial und den wichtigsten technischen Rahmendaten unterstreicht.
Oh, and I'm not NM Models!
NM
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Post by Achtung!! on Feb 25, 2008 22:04:01 GMT 1
Just done a translation:
To plan briefcase battle ship BISMARCK on 14 opening by hinges large sized plans, those of threw Blohm & Voss were made available and the deck and room layout BISMARCK in the summer 1940 on a scale 1:200 to show, become clear, which for a complicated system it concerned with the German battle ship, which was sunk on 27 May 1941. The plans supplemental by a likewise large sized side view of a model construction plan BISMARCK as well as a Begleitschrift, which supply a short introduction to the subject and which complexity of the ship underlines on the basis from rare photo material and the most important technical framework data.
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Post by nm on Feb 25, 2008 23:04:35 GMT 1
Where would we be without a Begleitschrift! The same museum publishes a pair of Bismarck books, one on the original ship and one on J Kaiser's very detailed model (both in German); or you can see them on moduni.de. Out of print last time I checked, but my German would be inadequate - if I was to buy the books I'd like to see them first.
NM
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Post by david on Feb 26, 2008 10:47:47 GMT 1
Thanks everyone, thats all very helpful. David
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Post by Achtung!! on Feb 26, 2008 11:32:20 GMT 1
Where would we be without a Begleitschrift! NM Ive got two ;D  |
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Post by matt on Feb 26, 2008 12:11:29 GMT 1
Hello NM. For info. seems to be a delay on the plans. I requested and paid on line for the plans from moduni.de. Still waiting. Heard nothing from them since. They probably will arrive just when I have finished the build HA!
Matt
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Post by matt on Feb 26, 2008 12:18:12 GMT 1
David. Sorry about delay. I was looking at the moduni.de site and they had an advert for 1:200 bismarck plans. I have since found out there is 4 week delay. So I am still waiting.
Matt
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Post by matt on Feb 26, 2008 15:07:17 GMT 1
I have just had a reply to my mornings e-mail to moduni. Regarding the plans for the Bismarck.
They expect the plans to be available by mid March.
Matt
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Post by afkmatrix on Feb 27, 2008 16:48:57 GMT 1
Hi Swanrail,
I was just wondering if you had or could take a picture of the side of your foredeck? I ask because I am trying to work out how my planking is going to meet up with the Deck Planking margins. Instead of using the porthole templates I am going to use some of the first layer planking to do the portholes and then sand them down but am unsure how they should finish up against the foredeck that is stuck down. I have taken the side extension right up to the removable part of the fordeck but not sure what to do with the stuck down part. Any pictures you or others have would be much appreciated.
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Post by swanrail on Feb 28, 2008 0:30:30 GMT 1
Here is a picture of my foredeck before I fitted the ply part:  At the bow end, I planked as per Hachette upto about 3mm below the fixed deck, then added a thin plank and finally wood filler to bring up UNDER the fixed deck. This leaves the side slighly square (by about 1mm plus another 1mm for the deck margin plank) after sanding the second coat (the ply bit), but this fits in with the profile at this point in the Anatomy book. Unfortunatel, have not many pics of the build, but here are two more from my scrapbook:   These are after the ply fitted, and after priming. Note that you can just see the squared edge on the latter. N.B. it was important that the ply piece when fitted followed the curve of the bow, and was NOT FLAT. This gives a natural flare which when sanded blended in perfectly. |
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Post by afkmatrix on Feb 28, 2008 0:41:00 GMT 1
Thanks for that Swanrail it has helped. Basically I am not going with the ply part with the portholes in I am going to use the slightly thicker 1st planking strips and then sand these down to fit in with the second layer of planking. I am doing this so that when I manually drill the holes I have a bit of extra thickness to play with so I won't go straight through the hull!!! I will be scanning and printing of the pictures from my Anatomy Book to get the right amount of portholes. I am also going to be seeing if I can get some eyelets for the portholes too.
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Post by swanrail on Feb 28, 2008 0:50:43 GMT 1
A couple of warnings:
if you are going to use the 1.5mm planking, IT MUST BEND VERTICALLY to give the correct hull flare shape, easy to do with 1mm ply, but very hard with any of the suppiied planking!
Secondly, I threw out the eyelets supplied with the Titanic, as they did not look right. The top flat piece is far too wide and out of scale. One member of the Titanic forum laboriously ground off the flat piece to leave the circular centre, which was just about right.
I used brass tubing cut into 2mm lengths and pushed into the drilled holes, hundreds of them on there!!!!!!
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Post by afkmatrix on Feb 28, 2008 0:58:46 GMT 1
Yep I understand what you mean mate. I will have a good look into it and test fit everything. I am going to be buying my 1mm x 1mm planking soon and that includes the 1mm ply sheeting so I can remakte the templates from Hachette, we'll see.
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