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Post by swanrail on Feb 28, 2008 17:52:27 GMT 1
Be careful of the 1mm ply, if sanded, shows a glue line between layers (made that mistake on the stern!!), better to buy 1mm lime sheet, using sellotape over the cut area prior to cutting out to prevent splitting (only remove surplus sellotape once glued down).
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Post by afkmatrix on Feb 28, 2008 18:04:28 GMT 1
Yeah I meant the lime sheet you have suggested in your Real Planking thread, for the outline of the superstructure when doing the deck planking. Was thinking this might be suitable and I will take note of the sellotape trick  Will mess around with the planking idea first as I have a whole 1m length of it spare. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 0:21:03 GMT 1
How hard / easy is it to join both sections of removable deck ?
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Post by afkmatrix on Feb 29, 2008 0:55:41 GMT 1
Do you mean joining the Stern section to the Main deck or to do the Bow deck mod? If you mean the cutting of the foredeck at the breakwater, if you have not stuck your fore deck down then it is very easy. If you have then its time for some ironing lol!! If you have a look at my build log and Swanrails Modifications section you can see some great pics for doing this mod. I will also soon be attaching my stern removable deck to the main one and have just a large removable deck peice, this looks like a very easy thing to do.
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Post by swanrail on Feb 29, 2008 0:59:41 GMT 1
Very easy. I joined mine in situ to make sure that they asligned properly. Firstly, have small gaps so used very thin planking glued down one side to fit, when dry, removed one section, painted on the wood glue and reset dead level and left to dry. When dry, carefully removed, filled in any gaps between the two with wood filler, cut a slot into the cross beam at deck level on each side and slotted in fore and aft reinforcing beams, clamping down well when glue set. Now it has had its top planking fixed, it is even stronger. Found no need at all to fix magnets to the new removable foredeck part, and not really necessary elsewhere, as the complete deck is now heavy enough to hold itself in place, especially with the raised sides. Note that the same method used both ends!!!   |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 1:01:43 GMT 1
I meant joining the main deck to the stern deck. Already have the foredeck glued down and don't think I want to unstick it.  |
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Post by swanrail on Feb 29, 2008 1:10:37 GMT 1
Have now added two pics on my last post to show fixings. Yes, you use the same technique both ends, so if you leave the foredeck as is, then copy as above for after deck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 1:14:43 GMT 1
Sounds easy enough, except I already have the deck planking on, (1st lot from hatchette). Hmm should have thought of this before I did it I think. The gap between the main and stern decks is minimal, there just about touching for me. Just added the photo. Think I might need to add a bit of extra wood, but not much though.  |
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Post by swanrail on Feb 29, 2008 1:18:50 GMT 1
How come that you have deck planking already? I am upto issue 53 and no sign of any yet, it is supposed to be due for the 60th. issue!!!!!
(I am scratch building my deck plankiing using 1mm wide planks as per my other posts - see fore and maindeck planking).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2008 1:29:07 GMT 1
What I meant was the wood that you you glue onto the frames, (maybe planking was the wrong word to use).  See the latest photos in my build diary for what I mean. |
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Post by swanrail on Feb 29, 2008 17:08:37 GMT 1
If you square off the deck on the right hand side and then add a filler piece across the hull to completely fill the gap, then you have no problems.
From what you say, you can still modify the foredeck to do the same if you wish, see my posts as well as those by AFKMATRIX, who successfully un-glued her foredeck to make the changes. Mine was done in situ!!!(harder to do)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2008 1:45:00 GMT 1
Think I would have to do some major cutting at the front, but it could be done. I have part 56 glued in place, so think I would need to cut through it a bit for the mod. Looking at it though, the deck is only glued onto 3 of the ribs at the front and part 56 at the back, so it may come off fairly easily. |
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 1, 2008 18:44:52 GMT 1
Mate just grab your iron and some baking paper, then using a craft knife and a screw driver in my case, steam the foredeck and then gently and slowly prise up the plywood. Now I managed to get my foredeck of with out busting it but even if you do just go by some replacement ply and make a new foredeck. I actually had a spare issue 19 so had a spare stern removable deck so I just cut and sanded this down so it matched the front deck and it worked a treat.
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Post by eric on Mar 1, 2008 22:18:40 GMT 1
Afkmatrix, did you cut out the shape of the deck mod first, and just remove that portion, or did you remove the whole deck?
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 1, 2008 22:58:59 GMT 1
Hi Eric,
Well all I did was take my spare stern decking and then trace the foredeck outline onto them. Next I used an Iron with backing paper in-between on the Foredeck. I then slowly prised up and removed the whole of the Foredeck as I had followed the Hatchette instructions up untill now so it was totally fixed down. Unfortunately once I had removed the foredeck it was in no condition to reuse thus i replace it with the new stern pieces. Then I marked out where the breakwater was, cut and stuck half of the deck to my main deck and the rest will eventually be stuck down.
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Will mess around with the planking idea first as I have a whole 1m length of it spare.
