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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2008 0:47:19 GMT 1
I'll leave the fordeck as is. The join dosen't look too bad and once the deck planking goes on it will be even less visible.
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Post by Baz on Mar 2, 2008 10:10:59 GMT 1
Aaaaaah Swanrail, Your patience with those 1mm deck planks is amazing. The further you progress, the more depressed I become. I had planned to plank the deck to scale as well, but I think I may cheat and look at planks 1.5mm wide. I won't be able to see a plank that small let alone glue it in the right spot. I will continue to watch in awe. Baz
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2008 11:52:36 GMT 1
Think I'll just wait for the hatchette ones - lol What do you mean (As a last resort "Read the instructions") ;D I never read instructions, well actually I do. - lol ;D If I was to just glue the centre deck to the stern deck would that be strong enough once the decking is in place or does it need reinforcing and if so how to do it without some major cutting.
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Post by swanrail on Mar 2, 2008 22:52:37 GMT 1
Hi Baz, the planking is very straightforward really, I firstly marked the deck with a grid, athwartships for the 30mm cuts for plank length, and longitudinally to keep the planks straight. (but it can be quite hard as they tend to drift out). I reckon to do 4 off 300mm strips per hour, allowing about 15 mins drying time before I cut the 30mm markers. By taking it very steady, and not worrying if the progress seems to be nil, it is surprising how fast it actually is! To relieve the monotomy, every so often I sand down the planks as a group down to about 1mm finish as my planks are rough sawn at about 1.5mm depth when fitted. This stops me having to spend hours in one go sanding, and also brings out the wanted finish which is very pleasing. It also shows up any slight defects I might have had so these can quickly and easily repaired. My advice: give it go on one of the smaller decks first, as per my instructional thread, this builds up confidence and you see the results and make sure that they are to your satisfactioin before tackling the big one, the main decks. I am about 65% finished now, one side complete and moving quite well up the other side. Have to drill the stern deck next for the stern anchor shank before planking over, that way, any mistakes in the drilling can be covered over!!!
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Post by swanrail on Mar 2, 2008 23:00:04 GMT 1
I have joined the foredeck to the maindeck as per my post No. 94 in this thread, where you will see two reinforcing 5mm by 1.5mm strips between the two.(on the outside) These were fitted AFTER the decks were glued together, using a long hacksaw blade, I cut slots into the cross beams 1.5mm apart, broke out the gash wood with a pair of long nose pliers, and glued in the planks, clamping down well while the glue set. With the veneer planking on top, the joint is very strong and solid. I shall do the same with the stern part as well, although this time I am busy with the veneer planking over first, but already the joint is strong.
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 5, 2008 12:59:00 GMT 1
Hi Swanrail, Quick quiry regarding the deck planking of the main deck. I have just been talking about the paint scheme I intend to do. Now if you look on this site: www.kbismarck.com/drawings.htmlThere are Red Swastika symbols on the deck (although on other drawings it is just the black swastika, need to clarify this) I am just thinking would it not be better when I come to this area for planking to just put down a flat piece of lime so that the sticker or when I paint it it does not have the deck planking showing through? Or would it in fact have been painted over the planking?
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Post by swanrail on Mar 5, 2008 14:04:03 GMT 1
I strongly suspect that the original was painted over the wooden deck, as in the fitting out pictures she seems to have a continuous deck planking and it makes more sense just to paint over. I will leave mine without the swastika!!!
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Post by poulw on Mar 6, 2008 10:32:58 GMT 1
The swastika is still visible on the aft deck of the of the Bismarck wreck even today, and it is painted directly on the deck planks. I had a look at the pics taken in 2002 of the wreck, and interestingly enough one of the photos clearly shows that there were 21 planks on the bow at the narrowest point between the anchor cluses (or whatever they are called), so this should once and for all settle the discussion on the plank width. You can see the pics of the wreck on www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarck/bismarck_menu.html Scroll down to "The Wreck of Bismarck" and look at Part 1 to 5
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Post by swanrail on Mar 6, 2008 14:02:14 GMT 1
You have cheeered me up Poulw (just had a disaster at the stern with my planking), so was feeling a bit down, I have counted the planks between by anchor recesses, and guess what? There aee 21 of them!!!! (mine are 1mm wide, equals 200mm full size equals approx. 8 inches in real money).
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Post by poulw on Mar 17, 2008 2:37:11 GMT 1
Don,
A small point which may or may not be of interest to people deck planking their model the correct - and hard - way.
If you need margin planks for eg. a detail in the centre line, make sure that the total width of this margin structure is either in even mm, or if this is not possible then offset the whole margin structure by 0.5mm to either side (hardly noticeable).
Reason: It is almost inpossible to make half a deck plank (width) if you want it to run tight along the margin plank. A gap 0.5mm in the plank structure IS noticeable.
Now for a quick question: What type of glue would you recommend for the deck planks (static model)?
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Post by viking on Mar 17, 2008 13:49:02 GMT 1
I would say normal wood glue should do the job or the same as you used for your planking
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Post by swanrail on Mar 18, 2008 0:57:38 GMT 1
Yes, I am using the Evostik weatherproof glue, as this is quick setting (about 15 mins for a good grab, 24 hours to fully set), is reasonably watertight, dries clear so any spillages do not show and easy to apply (I use a fine paintbrush, washed out after each application). Have now finished my main deck, rubbed down and coated with a clear acrylic varnish to protect it. I still have some cutting in to do for the various additives, which means waiting until Hachette supply them.
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Post by nm on Mar 18, 2008 1:11:33 GMT 1
Glad your Main Deck is done - bet you're glad too!
NM
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Post by eric on Mar 18, 2008 18:16:19 GMT 1
Come on.........where's the photos, Don!!!!!!!
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Post by swanrail on Mar 19, 2008 0:22:09 GMT 1
I am at present making good, a few gaps where the deck fits into the hull are being patched, a lot of rubbing down and the first temp coats of clear acrylic spray been done to protect the deck, next job is to touch in the topside grey primer to simulate the scuppers, and to make good some damage which occurred while removing the foredeck when I modified it, then onto the new portholes after which I can give the topsides there final grey paint and leave the hull while I start catching up on the brass bits!!!! Here is the latest picture of the removable deck:
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