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Post by Bry on Mar 19, 2008 21:56:33 GMT 1
Wish I never asked.
I feel like giving up.
Well done (clever arse).
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Post by swanrail on Mar 19, 2008 22:46:19 GMT 1
Do you mean my deck Bry, is so, do not despair, all it needs is a lot of time, and with 1mm by 1mm planks much easier tham mine, using 1mm by about 1.8mm cut down planks which involved a lot of heavy sanding.
For the record, the main deck has taken me some 5 weeks and about 140 hours to finish, but then I am retired, the weather at this time of year is lousy, the days are short and it keeps me from falling asleep in front of the TV!!!! (and I cannot do a lot with all these brass bits I keep getting week after week after week.......)
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Post by afkmatrix on Mar 19, 2008 22:57:33 GMT 1
Oh great lol, sounds like its gonna be alot of sanding for my deck planking sigh. I decided to go for 1x2mm strips as I think they will be easier to work with and easier to paint on the black acrylic.
EDIT: Sorry forgot to say swanrail very nice work on the decking. One question, if I am not doing movable turrets do I have to leave the round holes in the deck like you have?
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Post by Smackmback on Mar 24, 2008 14:11:19 GMT 1
Swanny,
Bob here, where do I find all the exact measurements for the positioning of the turret holes in the hull. I am modifying all the bits before glueing. Its all out of sequence I know but I want it all done before i get all the decking started. I am doing the deck joining and I have also replaced the planks in the middle of the deck with ply. I will post latest pics shortly
I am also flattening a bit of the fore deck section, the half bit joined to the main deck for a better fit instead of curving up.
Hope that all makes sense
BoB
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Post by swanrail on Mar 25, 2008 0:08:50 GMT 1
Hi Bob, if you look at my thread entitled Turret Anton, you will see the list of centres for each gun turret. I used the position of the rudder posts as the datum point, because at that time the stern was not complete and I could not measure from there.
All measurements were taken for the Anatomy of the Bismarck book, and I have since found that the superstructures we now have fit the positions exactly (thank God!).
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Post by Smackmback on Mar 25, 2008 12:18:49 GMT 1
Donny me Lad,
Thank you I had read all of the sections on turrets in your thread and copied them off to use as phisical ref. in front of me while cutting and carving. The one thing that my stupid eyes didn't see was the word "ANOTHER". This obviously meant adding but my mind wasn't in the groove, then when I re-read your reply tonight I did the same thing and said how in hell can the two turrets be the same measurement,AND THEN ....DING.....the light goes on and says " HULLO DIC.....HE..D read what your looking at.
NOW.....forgotten question....What is the diameter of the holes please?
Regards BOB
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Post by Smackmback on Mar 25, 2008 12:30:29 GMT 1
Just as a matter of interest....I have been receiving and still am, the subsrciption series currently at issue 27 and I have also been buying series weekly at the newsagency supposedly at issue 35 tomorrow BUT at issue 32 reverted back to issue 29 and started again,for the last three weeks and the supplier kept saying that it was impossible for me to have the mags I said I had. twice the agency said they tried to make the supplier beleive I was telling the truth. I proved their system had stuffed up but there was no record. there was a three week gap in supply that didn't exist...SO tomorrow morning fingers crossed ,I get some sense out of some one ....either get 32 or catch up 32 33 34 35...who nows what the future or is it the past holds? I will be screaming at BISSETT if it all goes south.
Anyway, just thought I would have a bitch....it was all too easy to be true until now after everything I have heard.
Catch you later
BOB ;D ;D ;D
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Post by swanrail on Mar 26, 2008 0:52:52 GMT 1
Hi Bob,
sorry to hear of all your troubles, your newsagents are obviously not so efficient as ours, so far have had 57 issues bang on time, (and a couple a few days early because of bank holidays), so very pleased. When I did the subscription service I was oftern several weeks behind and some copies had to be hassled for.
Now ref the turrets. I have now made mine as per my instructions with an outer skin to attach the brass bits to. This makes the outside diameter of the assembly 52mm, and the end results can be seen in the last two pictures of the Turret "Anton" thread.
The cylindrical module allows me to move the cylinder up and down in the deck so that eventually the correct amount will show above the deck, at which time it will be permanently fixed.
To cut the hole: easiest for me was to scribe the circle centred on the figures shown for each turret, using either a pair of compasses or (as I did) the circle cutter. I then carefully cut out the decks for Anton and Dora using a coping saw, and smoothed down to the correct size using mini sanding disk in my minicraft drill.
Bruno and Caesar are slightly different, Bruno needs a hole cutting for the bottom of the servo, but might need a full hole to allow adjustment of the height (mine did not) and the Caesar one should only need a hole for the bottom of the servo, as there is a large hole thoughfully provided by Hachette!!!
Hope you can get sorted soon and back to normal building, any more queries, please ask,
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Post by Smackmback on Mar 26, 2008 7:45:09 GMT 1
Thanks for that ....I will let all that sink into the old lump of jello and get on with it.
I just have to resize some pics and do a few mods and then some more pics and then I will get your adjudication on them before I make it final. There are so many mods everyone has come up with I am trying to do them early, and it seems like the model is going no where at present. I have the deckmods well under way and I am doing alot of rib sanding prepping for planking. I am planking either end and using 750mm(2' 6")in the main centre hull section.
I am making the early version sharp blade bow look. Its a bit fiddly fussy right now but lets face it we are not in any bloody bums rush for time are we.
Once again thanks for the full explanation, its great
Talk soon and will post pics again soon
BOB
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Post by Smackmback on Mar 26, 2008 7:50:44 GMT 1
The time on my post 128 above is 7:45 am which translates to 5:50pm Wednesday 26th.
So I am 10 hours ahead of you.
Just a little useless peice of information for you.
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Post by matt on Mar 30, 2008 21:35:30 GMT 1
Don regarding the catapults. Had look through The Bismarck history and destiny only photo's I could find page 107 133/134. The photo on 107 just looks like rails across the deck?
Matt
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Post by swanrail on Mar 30, 2008 22:29:35 GMT 1
Thanks for that Matt, I do not have that book, but looking more closely in the Anatomy book today, I found a picture of the end of the catapault on page 26, not very helpful though, but it does suggest that the wheels are solid!
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Post by matt on Apr 1, 2008 8:48:16 GMT 1
Sorry Don I think I mislead you. The pages I quoted came from Build the Bismarck mag. (History and destiny section). Page 6 also shows the Catapult left hand side of the picture. Looks like a railing in the background.You will need a magnifying glass. Not very clear. Thats all I could find.
Still waiting the arrival of the plans. I think the are coming from Timbuktu by sailing ship ( 10 months if the wind holds).
Matt
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Post by rem2007 on Apr 3, 2008 9:46:31 GMT 1
Hi Don,
Iam going to the show at Shepton Mallet next weekend and wish to purchase wood for side extensions there. Can you give me dimensions I need if I will be going from the aft end of foredeck to aft end of removeable aft deck? Cheers in advance.
I will be going with a couple of members from my club. Are you planning on attendingas it is quite near to you?If so I'd gladly purchase you a cuppa!
Take care,
Robert
Brilliant day eh!
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Post by swanrail on Apr 3, 2008 23:45:07 GMT 1
Hi Rob,
Mine models measurements are:
34 inches (approx. 870mm)betweeen the two fixed decks as supplied by Hachette, or 38 inches (approx. 970mm) from the after fixed deck to the modified foredeck shaped as per the breakwater.
If you can, replace the whole of the upper side from the two skins upwards with 20mm wide plank 1.5mm thick, else do as I did and glue a 5mm plank ontop to the ones already fitted. (not so strong though).
Much as I would like to, cannot come next weekend, as my wife is very poorly and makes me a bit housebound. (she has to be pushed around my bungalow in a wheel chair) and she is not very good at travelling at the moment.
Shall be thinking of you there and envious!!!
Good luck with the build,
Don
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