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Post by swanrail on Nov 11, 2007 13:01:14 GMT 1
Yes, looks good Poul, but if only ours was the 100 to 1 scale, life would be so much easier!!! p.s his portholes have given me an idea, I never used the ones inteneded for the Titanic, as they looked a bit naff, but might well suit the bismarck, will have to dig them out and see!!! Thanks for the link.
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Post by david on Nov 11, 2007 17:08:14 GMT 1
Thanks for the link Poul, this guy is an inspiration to us all I'm sure! David
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Post by poulw on Nov 11, 2007 22:14:34 GMT 1
Tell me about it! If only I had a penny for every time I have had the same thought, I would be a rich man today.
And, he certainly is a great inspiration. Every time I am stuck with a problem, I have a look at some of his many models and usually I find a solution.
Poul
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Post by swanrail on Nov 13, 2007 0:53:07 GMT 1
As a test run, I have "planked" the small top stern deck.(part 120) Decided to follow the 100 to 1 model decking procedure and fix in situ. Started by cutting appox. 2mm by 1mm waterways to go around the deck; see below: I then cut 2mm by 0,6mm planking from the 6mm by 0.6mm planks I bought. This picture shows partly fitted: The next shows the finished job, ready for varnishing with a clear matt varnish: This deck took approx. 1.5m of the 0.6mm strip. The strip was painted on one side with brown acrylic as a trial. (this represents the caulking).
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Post by Mark on Nov 13, 2007 6:50:10 GMT 1
David, Don, they look good. It shows what can be done with a bit of thought. I'm not sure I'll have the patience for it though
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Post by Achtung!! on Nov 13, 2007 9:59:18 GMT 1
I would go mad or end up gluing the planks to my fingers!!! grrr
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Post by matt on Nov 13, 2007 10:21:27 GMT 1
Hello Don now I understand why the model dockyard has run out of wood HA! I think you and David have started something. I was just thinking this is what happened on the Victory. We ended up with a better model but lots of mods were required. I think planking the deck will have to be considered. The Amati idea certainly from the photo's does not look very good. I for one am very interested. Keep the info coming.
Matt
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Post by david on Nov 13, 2007 10:37:47 GMT 1
Good work Don. I venture to say that you've officially laid the first plank on this project! I'm away from home looking at your pic's on a PDA, not ideal; look forward to seeing on a proper screen. David
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Post by rick1138 on Nov 13, 2007 12:41:14 GMT 1
I was having a think (i know its dangerous), however the printed decks seem to be of a different colour of wood.
If this is the case i would have thought the best thing to do would be to take a steel ruler and a sharp exacto blade i.e. no11 and score along the pre marked caulking lines.
Then once these 'lines' have been dppened i.e. a needle to clear out wood, you could spray the model with a suitable colour, and then line the caulk with an oil colour wash, very carefully with a fine brush.
This is very common on aircraft to stimulate wear etc.
This would save my sanity, although it would be time consuming, it should allow me to control the look of the wooden floor.
Although until i see the parts in situ i cannot say.
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Post by paulhbell on Nov 13, 2007 17:57:52 GMT 1
Don. WOW. Good luck, if your planning on decking the full deck like this. It will look really look good though. It would make me mad doing that, although I'm semi-crazy anyway. I think we all have to be to take this build on, false promises and all.
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Post by swanrail on Nov 13, 2007 18:58:07 GMT 1
Thanks lads. I had considered the scoring of the original decks as supplied by Hachette, but ruled this out as the pitch is too fine for my use of a steel rule!!! I am very pleased with the first result (below picture of satin varnish added) and am looking forward with some trepidation to the main deck, all 49 inches of it!!! Luckily, it is at least 6 months away if not more. Please note that my technique requires the brass side partitions to be painted BEFORE fixing in place, else the deck would have to be masked, a job I am not very good at. (the ships rails being the problem). So I shall store all the brass bits after painting until the decks are completed.
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Post by Mike B on Nov 14, 2007 5:48:35 GMT 1
I have been following this thread with interest as I intend to plank the deck also. One thing bothers me though. Looking at the picture of the printed deck, 0.6mm plank width seems too small. This equates to an actual plank width of 120mm full size at a scale of 1:200 ? Surely the planks were more than 4¾ inches wide? If this width is correct, I am thinking of opting for 1.0mm wide scale planking as "I am a perfectionist, not a purist" and if it looks nice to me, that's all that I am worried about. This will equate to an actual plank width of 200mm (8 inches). The reason I am opting for 1.0mm is that here in SA, the choices of wood that you guys have is not available here, except from the internet and the postage is horrendous apart from the distinct possibility of it getting "lost" or broken by the SA postal service. The 1.0mm I will get from my old standby, the tongue depressors, cut into 1mm strips. They are the perfect colour for varnishing ( similar to David's garden furniture). buildthebismark.proboards52.com/index.cgi?board=tips&action=display&thread=1190412732Does anyone know the actual plank width of the real Bismarck? MARCUS, on your printed deck sheet, what is the average measurement of the printed plank widths? thanks for any input guys, Mike B
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Post by poulw on Nov 14, 2007 9:17:13 GMT 1
Being close to planking the decks of my 1/200 Richelieu, I have been looking at various old photos from WWII battleships, (I haven't got any pics of Bismarck that detailed). It looks to me that the plank width is around the middle between 1/2 and 2/3 the length of the sailors' shoes when they are standing on the deck. This indicates a plank width 15-17cm.
However, if you look at models of WWII batleships, I think that the standard within the modelling society is to use 1mm wide planks on 1/200 models. (On certain pics of models of a known ship you can actually count the number of planks covering the width of a known object, eg. the diameter of a main turret).
Although it is an approximation one way or the other, I will go for 1mm planks on the decks of my model.
Poul
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Post by poulw on Nov 14, 2007 9:52:50 GMT 1
Hello again, I just happened to see a pic of USS Missouri which clearly shows the width of the deck planks www.ussmissouri.com/Photo_Gallery.aspxThe last pic clearly shows that each of the chairs covering exactly 4 planks. And, a comfy chair like these ones being approx 60cm wide therefore indicates a plank width of 15cm. Poul
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Post by markus on Nov 14, 2007 17:51:47 GMT 1
MARCUS, on your printed deck sheet, what is the average measurement of the printed plank widths? thanks for any input guys, Mike B the width on amatis parts is exactly 1mm... markus
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