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Post by Mark on Jan 17, 2008 2:25:31 GMT 1
I'm afraid you've got me beat Don. Maybe the paint is too thin and wicking under the tape, or are you using a spray can ?
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Post by swanrail on Jan 17, 2008 17:53:30 GMT 1
I have been using spray cans from my local car accessory shop, the primer states that it has "good body". The dark grey (for the hull band) seems to be much thinner. Will have to look into the IMHO one suggested by our French colleague. Similar to the Titanic, we are sticking on brass bits (water intakes) after spraying!! Likewise, what about the two outboard prop resin bits? No sign of when we shall get them, and its very frustrating as I want to get the hull virtually finished so I can store it safely before getting on with the fine detail brass bits. Also note that we are still missing a bit of the bow, presumably resin, where the bow anchor sits.
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Post by ph on Jun 25, 2008 13:42:35 GMT 1
I'm gona get meself a air gun. I was thinking of getting a second hand 1 of ebay,would that be ok or should i go get meself a new 1 to be on safe side. Iv never used 1 well not so small anyway,iv used car spraying guns at work and i didn't seem to do 2 bad, anyway, with all the small bits was thinking it would be better than brush painting.
P.S Wot make aswell please,mid range in price
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Post by Achtung!! on Jun 25, 2008 14:11:46 GMT 1
Badger air brushes are good.
Depends on your 'range' of pricing. Just go for a good all round one than can do large coverage and small detail coverage.
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Post by Mark on Jun 25, 2008 14:39:39 GMT 1
Badger is as good as any. I'd go for a single action, internal mix. Single action means that you pre-set the paint volume and only have to worry about controlling the air with the trigger. Dual action allows you to control both paint and air on the trigger. It's more versatile, but much more difficult to use and unnecessary for spraying a model, unless you're after fancy weathering effects. External mixing is the cheapy humbrol type - never seems to work very well. I got a new Badger for about £50, but you really need a compressor as well. Don't bother with the cans of air brush propellant - very expensive and pressure drops off rapidly as the can cools with use. A car tyre adapter works OK, and is cheap, but not very convenient. Mind, the air is free at your local garage You take your chance with Ebay - I had a reasonable one complete with compressor. When you get one, use some ink to practice with - it's the right consistency, so you don't need to worry about thinning it to the right consistency - I used to find that the hardest thing to get right to start with. I usually had to add more thinner than I expected. Once you've got the hand of spraying ink, then when you use paint you'll have a better idea of what to expect, and won't be wondering if it's you being cack handed or the paint too thin or thick.
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Post by ph on Jun 25, 2008 15:19:59 GMT 1
Cheers Lads, So Badger Single action it is then,Ill take your advice and will allso try with ink. think ill get a compressor to go with the gun as i see meself doing more models as im really enjoying it. Iv got about £150 to spend
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Post by ph on Jun 26, 2008 15:20:57 GMT 1
been looking at air brushes,talk about wot 1 to get. me brain was smoking.
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Post by afkmatrix on Jun 26, 2008 17:00:40 GMT 1
Well I have kind of set my heart on an Iwata Eclipse CS, but I don't need a compressor as my dad has a huge one at his garage (he's a car mechanic). I just think I am going to have to practice a lot as its dual action and I am a total beginner!! Cross fingers I can master it!!
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Post by Mark on Jun 27, 2008 3:49:20 GMT 1
Don't forget to fit an oil and moisture trap AFK. Oil or water in the air will spoil the paint finish, and it's pretty certain that a garage compressor will pump out both !!
I have an Iwata Hi-line HP-CH, which is a lovely bit of kit. Not really big enough for the Bismarck hull to be honest, but may be OK if I can work in good light. The Eclipse should be perfect for the job.
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Post by afkmatrix on Jun 27, 2008 10:18:25 GMT 1
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Post by Achtung!! on Jun 27, 2008 10:24:47 GMT 1
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Post by jim on Jun 27, 2008 18:03:02 GMT 1
If I may make a suggestion, the boot topping on Bissie is quite thick (waterline) i have used coachline tape which is used for (guess what) coaches and cars to delineate, comes in all sorts of colours and thickness. so it aint really important if the line between between top hull and beneath the waterline is perfect, just run the tape round the hull at the appropriate height. this photo is of my bissie and is only temporary, and is insulating tape.
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Post by ph on Jun 28, 2008 16:11:54 GMT 1
Found this air gun in a model shop [ Edinburgh ] £50, Do think it is ok and will be good for the job. help needed in deciding
The Badger 200-3 Precision Airbrush Set is a single action, internal mix, easy to use siphon airbrush for detailed spraying. The Badger 200-3 Airbrush is capable of spraying virtually any properly thinned material, with an adjustable spray pattern of between 1.6mm and 51mm for spraying any area and the ability to use any air system (propellant, compressor, Co2 tank) this Airbrush is very flexible. The Badger 200-3 Precision Airbrush operates on 20 50 PSI (1.4 3.5 bar) for consistent results and a new drop in top design for easy cleaning. Teflon head seal assures efficient airflow. The Badger 200-3 Precision Airbrush Set is ideal for any model maker.
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Post by eric on Jun 28, 2008 21:10:37 GMT 1
Hi Paul, that is my air-brush, it's very good.
The only flaw with it as far as I can see, is that you cannot adjust the flow strenght with the trigger as you can with more expensive ones.
But I am very happy with it non the less.
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Post by ph on Jun 29, 2008 14:20:47 GMT 1
Cheers Eric Thats the 1 ill go for then,will put me order in next week or better still have a day out in Edinburgh. Can you tell me please wot make of compressor you use aswell and ill get the same,that way i cant go wrong. cheers again
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