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Post by laugh on Mar 9, 2007 13:46:48 GMT 1
i already have plans to put radio gear in for turrets,etc (as mentioned in another forum)..... might have to build custom gear though ...i got over two years to think about it lol
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Post by Mark on Mar 9, 2007 16:11:38 GMT 1
I plan to do the same sort of thing - should be fun (now if only I could make the guns fire as well ) Cheers Mark
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Post by viking on Mar 11, 2007 4:13:56 GMT 1
it sounds as though we all are .Me thinks i will use micro motors their small and have gears in them used one to power radar on my snowberry will have to figure out how revers current first should not be to hard Huh
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Post by paul on Mar 12, 2007 9:55:55 GMT 1
Hi Colleagues, Hachette will offer an RC set for the Bismarck, however, according to the experts who are building to modell at www.die-graue-flotte.de it's a load of rubish and not worth the money. The set offered here in Germany is from Graupner. In the UK you might get a different offer, which hopefuly will be better. We have come to the result here, that Hachette orginaly planned to build a stand modell, without RC and later switched over to the new option, which obviously has caused quite a few problems. Since the Bismarck in the UK started on feb. 21st 2007 the major problems of the first issues might have been corrected due to the fact, that a tremedous lot of complaints were posted. Lets wait and see. All the best Paul
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Post by StevO on Mar 15, 2007 9:51:55 GMT 1
Hi Paul
Any chance of letting us know or finding out what these build problems are?
I have spoken with Hachette in the UK who said the only thing that has changed for the UK series is obviously a translation in text, the build photos and components are exactly the same as Germany!
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Post by dirk on Mar 15, 2007 15:51:30 GMT 1
Hi Paul Any chance of letting us know or finding out what these build problems are? I have spoken with Hachette in the UK who said the only thing that has changed for the UK series is obviously a translation in text, the build photos and components are exactly the same as Germany! , well then, we will make a list of the problems we had so far.
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Post by paul on Mar 15, 2007 16:04:25 GMT 1
Dirk was faster than me - I'll send him a PN and we'll issue a list of the major problems that have turned up to date. Cheers Paul
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Post by Matthew. on Mar 15, 2007 23:17:37 GMT 1
i already have plans to put radio gear in for turrets,etc (as mentioned in another forum)..... might have to build custom gear though ...i got over two years to think about it lol that aint to hard an internal gear going fully around the turret (which will have to be freed up so that it will be held on but can still move) and then a striped micro server will do it I plan to do the same sort of thing - should be fun (now if only I could make the guns fire as well ) Cheers Mark any idea how big the guns will be and the barrel size will be? if it is over 6mm diam then bb's ;D if not then i would probs take the diam and size and lathe one and make some small shells and ill make some sort of air cannon out of an old tecknix lego set with air tanks pipes compressors ect that will be 1-2 week project what probs have been seen? ill probs get some viper moters for a radio car (fast my car has one) and a 3-8 way receiver depends on how much i want to do what do all you think? and how do you think they will make
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Post by steveo on Mar 16, 2007 22:00:48 GMT 1
If its any help the propeller motors in Germany are shown as being Graupner Speed 400's, I think they are the 7.2v version, no details yet as to what the battery pack is as no mention of it in the RC pack so no doubt the battery & charger are in addition to the RC pack, also unsure as to what ESC they supply but it does seem to be supplied with the RC pack. The German RC spec has two motors that drive the two outer prop shafts, but there are three prop shaft shown with no apparent link to the centre shaft. Already something does not look right as in the UK the pull out sheet that comes with issue 1 show's an inset photo of two motors and two prop shafts, it does not show a third shaft Is there no drive to the centre prop shaft and does the UK RC version only have two props If you look on ebay Germany you will already see being sold three motor set-ups using the Speed 400's that drive three prop shafts, if anyone wants to see a pic then email me and will oblige. One thing I would say is that having seen photo's of the motors & shafts installed it looks a nightmare of a fit as the outer shafts appear to run thru hull formers which will need holes to be drilled within the confines of the Hull....The RC installation does look very much like an afterthought, this seems to confirm what someone said on this forum of the model being originally designed for static display with an RC option being thrown in at the very last minute. Regarding the radio control system itself, if you want other functions to operate on your ship then you will need to invest in a radio system that is more than 2-channels as all that a 2-channel radio will do is operate forward/reverse and left/right. In the UK you can use a 27Mhz or 40Mhz system but NOT a 35Mhz system, most RC boaters use a 40mhz system as there is much less frequency interference.
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Post by Matthew. on Mar 17, 2007 18:56:21 GMT 1
weard i might make my own set up but could i have a like to the ebay sales also are we getting brass propellers? as part of the model
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Post by steveo on Mar 17, 2007 19:13:29 GMT 1
For the RC kit they are made of a black nylon, unsure about the props for the static version though, also the scale outer prop shaft fittings are very different in appearance between the static build & RC version, but I suppose with a little thought you could replicate the true design.
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Post by Matthew. on Mar 17, 2007 19:23:09 GMT 1
yeh if i can find some brass ones they will be better much better do you have any picks of the way it is ment to be static and what it would be RC ? that would be a big help
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Post by viking on Mar 17, 2007 22:18:33 GMT 1
found this on German site about brass prop,s with pis look good got pics of the site but can not get them on to hear.If sum one can speak the lingo they just may find out more and let the rest of use know www.die-graue-flotte.de/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=82 :Who would like to have original-faithful screws with a M2 or a M3 thread for its future driving model of the Amati Bismarck, contact please Mr. Lassek: Tel: 05731-868655
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Post by Matthew. on Mar 17, 2007 23:13:14 GMT 1
1st post: Who would like to have original-faithful screws with a M2 or a M3 thread for its future driving model of the Amati Bismarck, contact please Mr. Lassek: Tel: 05731-868655 Mr. Lassek lets make the screws specially for the forum members. A sentence, thus, 39 costs 3 screws? plus 10? Postage. Uman will still adjust here a few pictures of its screws already acquired. 2nd post: here times three pictures of screw. one sees, two left and a right screws the sheets is verloehtet and the loehtstellen is cleanly made the sheets themselves, should however then still more thinly, to which end are filed. here the profile of the sheets from the side. here one that a socket was used, sees for the M3 thread the cyclic testing, was not first not satisfying as I screws then to ends more approximately and easily conical made, was also rehearses settles her ran approximately I has with 850 revolutions in the turning lathe made, there one the cyclic testing better to see there can screw is not completely cheap, but of very good quality the profile of the sheets, must be still worked on, and thereafter is necessary greeting polishes uman 3rd post: I would like to also still do my opinion kund. The propellers are outstanding finished, a soldering seam between sheet and hub as good as not recognizable. My propellers had from the beginning a very precise cyclic testing, a rework were not necessary. How already said uman, the sheets do not have to still become a little more thinly polished to the end, this represent however for a halfway experienced amateur handicraftsman a problem. Result: An expenditure, which is really worthwhile itself! i used a translator and i copied the images. =] is this for this model?
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Post by viking on Mar 18, 2007 11:25:18 GMT 1
they are that Matthew they look good mite try to ring to fiend out more
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