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Post by markus on Aug 28, 2007 16:45:40 GMT 1
I've a question for our German colleagues since they're further ahead than us; have you seen any evidence of a camber on the planked main and upper decks? The various sections in the Brower book clearly shows that there should be such a curve. However, studying the Amati pic on Markus's 'Hull' post on p.17, by laying a straight edge across the line of plank ends, there appears to be no camber at all! Surely, with all the wealth of detail going into this model, Amati wouldn't overlook such an important feature,......would they? do you mean the camber from the left to the right on the deck? markus
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Post by david on Aug 28, 2007 17:33:42 GMT 1
Hi Markus, Yes, the centre of the deck is slightly higher than the port and starboard edges, to assist with water drainage. Measuring the Brower plans I reckon that at the midships point, the deck is about 2.5mm higher at the centre than at the sides. Towards the bow and stern this camber flattens out completely. Do you know what the thickness is of the final Amati deck layer? David
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Post by markus on Aug 28, 2007 17:44:51 GMT 1
Hi Markus, Yes, the centre of the deck is slightly higher than the port and starboard edges, to assist with water drainage. Measuring the Brower plans I reckon that at the midships point, the deck is about 2.5mm higher at the centre than at the sides. Towards the bow and stern this camber flattens out completely. Do you know what the thickness is of the final Amati deck layer? David i know there was a height difference for water drainage, but did't expect 50cm (2,5mm in 1:200) on the original ship i havent built in a camber to avoid problems when fitting the superstructure the final layer seems be be some kind of wooden veneer, so i guess thickness will be approx. 0,5 - 1mm cheers markus
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Post by napoleon on Aug 28, 2007 19:02:48 GMT 1
I'm going to keep my deck flat to avoid problems pointed out by Markus
Napoleon
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Post by alanv on Aug 29, 2007 0:21:47 GMT 1
To be honest I don't think 2.5mm will make much differance. I don't think it will be noticeable. If I could spot that on a model I would want the biggest and best anorak ever.
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Post by Mark on Aug 29, 2007 2:44:38 GMT 1
Hmmmm...... Having a nautical background, it's one of the things that I would spot immediately. However, it would involve a lot of work to correct on the model, so I'm going to leave it as it is. My anorak is extra large please
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Post by laughalot on Aug 29, 2007 14:34:36 GMT 1
quick question....
ive got all the bits for the deck and when it all sits on the hull ive noticed the bow end slopes upwards slightly ...
is this right?
or do i need to get it all perfectly flat?
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Post by napoleon on Aug 29, 2007 14:51:34 GMT 1
Hi Laughalot,
I think you'll find it should slope upwards, certainly the deck line is not supposed to be dead flat.
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Post by Mark on Aug 29, 2007 15:23:45 GMT 1
Napoleon is right, the bow and stern should be higher than the middle. (That's still no excuse not the cart him off to St Helena tho )
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Post by nemesis on Aug 29, 2007 20:12:50 GMT 1
It had to happen sooner or later. Here's my first whine about the kit. Why oh why can't Hatchet get the thickness of the parts consistent?
Before starting on issue 20 I spent some time sanding the decking planks smooth as they were all different thicknesses, and also to bring the ends down to the same level as the two bow decking sections as they were thinner than the planks, too.
So what do I find when adding the outer mid-deck sections? Yup, more sanding to do because they're also thinner than the deck planks. I thought they were supposed to be super acurate laser cuts?
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Post by napoleon on Aug 29, 2007 21:45:03 GMT 1
Silly Nemesis, the flat surfaces aren't lazer cut only the shapes are cut, so its down to the thickness of the wood supplied. A Sergeant Major should know better, consider yourself lucky to escape a fizzer!!! ;D ;D ;D The honorourable gentleman refers you to your school report! hee, hee.
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Post by rwclancer on Aug 30, 2007 13:51:00 GMT 1
Having probs with getting the deck sanded smooth. The planks midships are the problem as they are uneven. Would it be better to sand them down or build up the parts joining them? I dont want to sand too much and have a dipped deck.
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Post by napoleon on Aug 30, 2007 14:32:54 GMT 1
Hi rwclancer,
Personally, I feel it is best to sand down rather than build up and that is what I am doing. In my mind, if you build up on large flat surfaces, you are going to have to end up doing even more sanding down. Hope that makes sense?
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Post by Mark on Aug 31, 2007 0:04:33 GMT 1
I always go for the sanding down, unless it's going to make the planks too thin. For the deck I'd definitely sand, its a lot easier than trying to build up the outer parts.
Use a good sized sanding block to keep it all flat.
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Post by paulhbell on Aug 31, 2007 12:51:26 GMT 1
I actually used a Black and Decker (sorry about the advert) palm sander. Works really good, for the deck, nice and smooth now. Just have to take it easy and not take to much off. It has an pointed attachment for getting into small areas, I've used this for the hull and it has come out ok.
Just don't rush this stage, because uneven areas will still show through the second planking.
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